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1. naderm+Df1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 19:01:33
>>ANewbu+(OP)
The UK has been doing this sort of stuff for at least a decade. For example they have the PIPCU which under the guise of copyright threatens 10 years in prison for sites not even in their jurisdiction.

https://torrentfreak.com/uk-police-launch-campaign-to-shut-d...

And with that, they have at the least gotten registrars not located in their jurisdicrion to transfer domains

https://easydns.com/blog/2013/10/08/whatever-happened-to-due...

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2. kimixa+rD1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 20:59:40
>>naderm+Df1
The US has always claimed jurisdiction on foreign-hosted but US-accessible content.

Do people forget the owner of Megaupload being extradited? In many ways this is just catching up to the current US state.

And there's a lot of confusion here between basic consumer data protection laws and (IMHO massively overreaching) "Online Safety" laws. This isn't Imgur making a stand for free speech, this is Imgur wanting to track and sell user data - to which minors cannot consent. Putting on my tinfoil hat you could argue that many of these companies are trying to encourage this misunderstanding intentionally.

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3. Aurorn+U62[view] [source] 2025-10-01 00:35:17
>>kimixa+rD1
> The US has always claimed jurisdiction on foreign-hosted but US-accessible content.

Committing crimes remotely from another country was never a loophole to escape the laws of that country.

When a country requests extradition they’re not claiming jurisdiction over another country. They’re saying that a crime was committed in their country by the person and they’re asking the foreign country for cooperation in prosecuting that person.

The MegaUpload case is not equivalent to what the UK is doing. MegaUpload was operating as a business, taking payments, and exchanging money. Once you start doing explicit paid business in a country you can’t claim you’re not involved with that country.

If a country starts claiming that merely making content accessible globally is a crime in their country, that’s an entirely different issue. Not equivalent to the MegaUpload case.

> Do people forget the owner of Megaupload being extradited? In many ways this is just catching up to the current US state.

Again, false equivalence. MegaUpload was operating as a business with US customers. They also had some hosting in the United States if I recall correctly.

Once you start doing business in a country and have customers there, you’re involved with their laws.

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4. NL807+6e2[view] [source] 2025-10-01 01:43:05
>>Aurorn+U62
>They’re saying that a crime was committed in their country by the person and they’re asking the foreign country for cooperation in prosecuting that person.

Seems like a loophole for arbitrary criminal accusations of a people living abroad who are not affiliated with the country making the accusations. With this kind of logic, adult website operators should be extradited to some middle-eastern country for violating their sharia law online. It's wrong. Site operators living abroad should not be held accountable for not adhering to arbitrary local laws, unless they are conducting business directly in that country.

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5. Vespas+GX2[view] [source] 2025-10-01 10:49:08
>>NL807+6e2
But that is exactly how it works.

Middle Eastern countries are not able to convince e.g. the US or any of the European Countries to extradite their citizens (or sometimes legal residents) for violating the moral codes of let's say Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

Because these countries know that (and becaue of diplomatic consequences) the law and/or government there doesn't even try it. But if the CEO of a porn site travels there he can and most likely will be held accountable. Tha

If it's a crime in both jurisdiction prosecution is certainly a possibility and happens regularily (or both countries cooperate to convict people without extradition)

Ultimately the United States have a lot more diplomatic sway over the world than some random country and that's why they can and do ask for a lot more.

If you ever need an example of everday US soft power that it is.

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