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1. elAhmo+ld[view] [source] 2025-09-30 14:12:39
>>ANewbu+(OP)
> The ICO also confirmed that companies could not avoid accountability by withdrawing their services in the UK.

This is quite a slippery slope. If I host a website in one country, I do not necessarily care where people access my website from. It is not like I actively provide a service to them - they just use internet (decentralised network) to access it. What if I publish a newspaper here, someone takes it where the contents are illegal, am I accountable?

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2. wiethe+Zf[view] [source] 2025-09-30 14:25:58
>>elAhmo+ld
It appears that you are mixing things here.

It's not about "hosting a website", it's about providing services.

If you provide services, like selling a newspaper, in the UK, you need to respect their laws, or you will suffer the legal implications of not doing so.

And regarding the accountability, it refers to the fact that imgur USED TO provide services in the UK:

> We have been clear that exiting the UK does not allow an organisation to avoid responsibility for any prior infringement of data protection law, and our investigation remains ongoing.

Companies providing services outside the UK can infringe all the UK laws they want, the UK doesn't care.

But as soon as you decide to provide services in the UK, you have to follow the law. And, as they explain in the article, if you break the law, stopping to provide services in the UK will not absolve you for your past wrongdoings.

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3. lurk2+ak1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 19:19:21
>>wiethe+Zf
> that imgur USED TO provide services in the UK

Meaning that the servers were located in the UK, or that the users were, or both?

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4. ryandr+qr1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 19:54:48
>>lurk2+ak1
It's so ambiguous. Let's say I'm a citizen of country A, currently residing in country B. I'm using a VPN headquartered in country C to make my traffic appear to originate from country D. I access a web site with servers physically located in country E, that uses a load balancer / cache hosted in country F. The company that runs the web site is headquartered in country G but has employees in countries H, I, and J.

Whose laws need to be followed?

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5. Spivak+jt1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 20:05:42
>>ryandr+qr1
Seems like B and G. Then if you do business with A (what the GPDR calls "UK Establishment") and A has laws governing its citizens abroad like the UK GPDR then also A.
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6. shagie+9u1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 20:09:38
>>Spivak+jt1
But the traffic is coming from country D rather than country B. There's no way for the company to know that the person and their interactions is subject to the laws of B rather than D.
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7. joseph+ix1[view] [source] 2025-09-30 20:27:30
>>shagie+9u1
Most sales aren’t that complicated. Usually UK law targets anything sold to people who are physically in the UK, paying in GBP. Which from the sounds of things, was something imgur did.

Does it also count for people in the UK using a vpn? What about people in the UK paying using American money? It’s not clear, but it doesn’t really matter. These laws target the service providers, not the customers. If you website says “this product isn’t available to UK residents” and you IP block and don’t take GBP as a payment method, nobody will get too angry if a spattering of tech savvy people get around the block using a VPN.

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