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1. dijit+N2[view] [source] 2025-09-28 18:23:32
>>DamonH+(OP)
As well as the Estonia eID system works (aside from that time it got hacked[0] and that other time they leaked all the photos[1]) and how well a digital (non-government) system works in Scandinavia… I have to say…

As a Dual British/Swedish Citizen, I really do not trust the UK government. They have proven over and over and over, that at every opportunity presented they will increase their own authority. I don’t believe I have personally witnessed any other advanced economy that so ardently marches towards authoritarianism.

So, no matter if it’s a good idea or not. I can’t in good faith advise the UK having more powers. Unfortunately the UK government themselves can sort of just grant themselves more power. So…

[0]: https://e-estonia.com/card-security-risk/

[1]: https://therecord.media/estonia-says-a-hacker-downloaded-286...

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2. phatfi+9x1[view] [source] 2025-09-29 11:13:06
>>dijit+N2
I'd love to know how this "march towards authoritarianism" actually manifests in the real world. Not just in the head space of podcast grifters and privacy nuts.

I've lived in the UK my whole life. Multiple other countries have liberated themselves and then returned to authoritarian governments within my lifetime.

Strangely this hasn't happened in the UK, plenty of people trying to wish it into existence though.

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3. dijit+oA1[view] [source] 2025-09-29 11:49:31
>>phatfi+9x1
An average of 30 people a day are arrested for offending people over the internet (according to the Mirror)

The government regularly unpersons disagreeable people.

I really wish it wasn’t happening, as it stands I am not going to move back.

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4. phatfi+2b2[view] [source] 2025-09-29 15:10:55
>>dijit+oA1
The hate speech laws are just badly written for the online age, which is a problem but they are not going to result in the fall of democracy.

They are catching what would normally be bigoted comments someone makes to their mates down the pub (or maybe in their WhatsApp group) and because it was posted to the world on Twitter it counts as inciting violence.

The police obviously can't investigate all potential infringements so now they have to pick and choose what they do enforce. And inevitably the ones with the most noise get their attention.

The people that do get caught up in this said something nasty they should have kept to themselves. Not something to be arrested for in most cases, but it's not an attack on free speech either. Just a badly constructed law.

Not really sure what "regularly unpersons disagreeable people" means. Shamima Begum is the only one I can think of recently. She got made an example of so a load of copy cats didn't go and join ISIS whose goal is to destroy the western nonbelievers (including the UK). Unfortunate to be made the example I suppose, but it is not a regular occurrence.

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