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1. dijit+N2[view] [source] 2025-09-28 18:23:32
>>DamonH+(OP)
As well as the Estonia eID system works (aside from that time it got hacked[0] and that other time they leaked all the photos[1]) and how well a digital (non-government) system works in Scandinavia… I have to say…

As a Dual British/Swedish Citizen, I really do not trust the UK government. They have proven over and over and over, that at every opportunity presented they will increase their own authority. I don’t believe I have personally witnessed any other advanced economy that so ardently marches towards authoritarianism.

So, no matter if it’s a good idea or not. I can’t in good faith advise the UK having more powers. Unfortunately the UK government themselves can sort of just grant themselves more power. So…

[0]: https://e-estonia.com/card-security-risk/

[1]: https://therecord.media/estonia-says-a-hacker-downloaded-286...

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2. skelet+fj[view] [source] 2025-09-28 20:22:14
>>dijit+N2
Our system in Estonia works well.

I don't get the resistance to a digital/national id in other countries. To us it is quite bizarre.

Some have explained it with a lack of trust between citizens and the country.

But without such digital id it is impossible to have such digital government services as we have here. The government services need to verify and autheticate the citizen, so they only access their own data and not someone who has the same name and birth date by accident.

I don't see how such a system gives the government more powers. It already has all the data on its citizens, but it is spread out, fragmented, stored with multiple conflicting versions, maybe some of it is stored in databases where no one cares about security, etc.

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3. reaper+tG[view] [source] 2025-09-28 23:45:50
>>skelet+fj
without such digital id it is impossible to have such digital government services

And now we know what Estonia's single point of failure is.

An adversary only has to hack one system to bring an entire country down. That sounds a bit scary to me.

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4. Avaman+vz1[view] [source] 2025-09-29 11:41:01
>>reaper+tG
Having an ID issued by a central authority does not mean it can only be used by the central authority in a way that it becomes a SPoF.

Attacking the DMV doesn't make licenses vanish into thin air either for example.

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5. reaper+6W1[view] [source] 2025-09-29 13:56:15
>>Avaman+vz1
Attacking the DMV doesn't make licenses vanish into thin air

Nevada's DMV was part of a hack a couple of months ago, and it caused chaos beyond just drivers licenses.

https://www.2news.com/news/local/nevada-restores-fingerprint...

This is an excellent real-world example of why having all your data eggs in one basket is a terrible idea.

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