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1. donmcr+G8[view] [source] 2025-09-26 05:24:17
>>ptk+(OP)
Even though it's become commonplace in the last 20 years, I'm still shocked to see how companies can pretty much ignore the law, do whatever they want, and have everyone involved shielded from any kind of significant consequences.

In situations like this, I think the person at the top of the chain that told employees to perform the illegal installations should be arrested and charged. On top of that, the company should be fined into bankruptcy. If the directors knew about it any companies they're involved with shouldn't be allowed to conduct future business in the municipality (or state).

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2. FireBe+8v2[view] [source] 2025-09-26 23:24:09
>>donmcr+G8
As an ex-employee of Flock, I can guarantee that this most likely came from the top down. The founder has a vision that isn't just aspirational, but literal, in his eyes, "Flock should help eliminate all crime." Very much Minority Report. He sees Flock as the unsung heroes of the community, and any collateral damage is an acceptable price to pay, despite lip service being paid to ethics:

For example, their "suspicious behavior". Cameras reporting to HOAs and to LE of vehicle behavior that is suspicious or aberrant to their AI (changes in parking behavior and times, for example).

Sharing of data between entities that aren't meant to be sharing (HOAs sending data to LE, for example, when prohibited by the state. Flock's position is "not our job to stop you, even if we know that your state says not to").

A very ... opaque ... "transparency report". In my county alone, there are at least four agencies using Flock that are not listed in their "Agencies using Flock" data.

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3. qmr+FO2[view] [source] 2025-09-27 04:44:32
>>FireBe+8v2
Why would you work for such a fucked up dystopian Orwellian corporation?

Appreciate any other insider details you have to share.

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4. HiPhis+E33[view] [source] 2025-09-27 08:52:10
>>qmr+FO2
> Why would you work for such a fucked up dystopian Orwellian corporation?

I never understood how someone can ask such a question. It's not like you can just change jobs like you can change clothes. Some people have a family to feed so they can't just decide to be jobless for a few months. Finding a new job takes time you might not have if you still have to show up to your existing job and keep up the mask as if you have no intention of quitting. Sometimes the shittiest jobs pay the most and you cannot afford the pay cut. And sometimes all options are equally bad, e.g. if you don't want to participate in planned obsolescence, but every company out there is making products designed to break. What's the alternative? Make your own company?

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5. qmr+a63[view] [source] 2025-09-27 09:24:25
>>HiPhis+E33
"Because of the broken socio-economic hellscape we are forced to exist in" is certainly a valid-ish answer.

> What's the alternative? Make your own company?

Check address bar? :)

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