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>>ptk+(OP)
Even though it's become commonplace in the last 20 years, I'm still shocked to see how companies can pretty much ignore the law, do whatever they want, and have everyone involved shielded from any kind of significant consequences.

In situations like this, I think the person at the top of the chain that told employees to perform the illegal installations should be arrested and charged. On top of that, the company should be fined into bankruptcy. If the directors knew about it any companies they're involved with shouldn't be allowed to conduct future business in the municipality (or state).

>>donmcr+G8
They were co-operating/conspiring with CBP as an extension of the federal government.

Most likely the feds said they will tie up whoever challenges them in federal court. They can play jurisdiction fuck fuck games and then flip between it being a search, it being necessary for safety, that the city/county was obstruction a federal investigation, and all other nonsense.

Don't think your company could just put up cameras and post the location of LEO and they'd let you get away with something like that.

>>mothba+U9
> Most likely the feds said they will tie up whoever challenges them in federal court. They can play jurisdiction fuck fuck games and then flip between it being a search, it being necessary for safety, that the city/county was obstruction a federal investigation, and all other nonsense.

This sounds like some sort of legal procedures adopted from the USSR.

>>eurode+vd
It isn't just USSR, it is the core Russian principle of "oprichnina" - you can violate any laws, human or God's, as long as you're serving the tzar, Secretary General or President Putin. We start to see a hint of it here with ICE, and i'm sure we'll see a bit more of it with the newly formed Domestic Terrorism Task Force.

>>trhway+yv
This mode of operation is completely the reverse of my country the Netherlands.

In Dutch society it doesn't really matter who the current ruling party is the big machine keeps rolling on. The names change frequently- governments keep tumbling down- but every day like clockwork people get up in the morning, go to work and follow their programming. Prime minister A is replaced by prime minister B.

In some ways having a personality cult is less scary. You can kill a man but how do you destroy a collective?

>>Yeul+eI
That's actually comparing two collectives:

1. A collective where there is a belief (however slow or stodgy) in the consistent application of known rules.

2. A collective where the only real rule is to make the cult leader happy even if it means a forest of contradictions and rewriting history.

While (2) can easily change on a whim... it's not your whim.

Which leads us to the practical question: Which collective do you think you and your community could best fight against when it starts hurting you? I think a majority of the time I'd rather be opposed to (1).

>>Terr_+3j2
> I think a majority of the time I'd rather be opposed to (1)

This sounds terrible. Any political system can be good or bad, but some of them are much more prone to autocratic drift than others. There should be absolutely no hesitation: rule of law is much better than personal dictatorship. It is not sufficient because the law can be oppressive, but it is absolutely necessary.