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1. jbullo+Ta[view] [source] 2025-09-26 05:47:35
>>ptk+(OP)
There is a larger issue that other commenters are missing:

> The city has paid the first two years of that extension but would still owe $145,500 for the final three years if the contract is upheld. The city intends to terminate the contract on Sept. 26 under its notice to Flock, but the company is challenging that termination, and the dispute could escalate to litigation.

The city is trying to terminate a contract with Flock. Under that contract, the city agreed to pay Flock for three more years of service. Flock maintains that the city doesn't have the right to nullify the contract. The linked article says almost nothing about the contract dispute, but another article [1] has some details.

I don't know whether the city is correct about its power to terminate the contract, or whether instead Flock is correct. Either way, I wonder whether Flock is re-installing the cameras out of fear that, if it doesn't, it will be voiding its right to future payment under the contract.

[1] https://evanstonroundtable.com/2025/08/28/flock-challenges-c...

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2. burnte+IT1[view] [source] 2025-09-26 18:45:25
>>jbullo+Ta
What you're missing is they can get that money without putting the cameras back up. That's what you do when a customer doesn't want your service/product but they still have an active contract.
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3. delfin+qV1[view] [source] 2025-09-26 18:57:56
>>burnte+IT1
Yep, paying out the remaining value of the contract is generally the default-court acceptable manner to terminate a contract. And it's probably in there as a clause.

However, if Flock was really being evil, they could argue in court they are losing on the value of spying on the American populace.

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4. burnte+z82[view] [source] 2025-09-26 20:21:51
>>delfin+qV1
> However, if Flock was really being evil, they could argue in court they are losing on the value of spying on the American populace.

We don't know they won't say this! All the surveillance they do absolutely has value in being able to sell it to other government agencies and private security. Later on, once they've been around a while each customer is less important, but right now every single one is key so I would not be surprised if they fight to keep the cameras up so they can gather metrics for internal use and marketing/sales. They very well may say, "the contract calls for the surveillance to be active. Removing the cameras reduces our ability to further improve the system, so we're financially harmed by that." They won't win, but they very well may try it.

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