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>>sschue+(OP)
This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out.

> Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope.

What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ?

One can dream perhaps. Until then adults who are willing to 'do what they're told' will be the ones who are inconvenienced by this constantly.

Edit: Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online.

>>bileka+vb
> Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online.

This already the case today, you can't run your bank's app or government eID apps on anything but Google or Apple devices.

>>j0057+4r
> you can't run your bank's app

I can log in to my bank account using my desktop PC

> government eID apps

I can sign into government websites using my desktop PC and its smart card reader and my government-issued eID smartcard. No smartphone needed.

>>logifa+wB
Not in EU. Many banks mandate you either have an iPhone or Google approved Android as 2FA. Those fucking idiots have killed their own competition options.

>>okanat+sG
Of course in the EU - pretty much all Baltic and Nordic countries support id cards connected via usb

>>xxs+aV
Well not in Germany. Some banks accept their branded authenticators, some of them don't.

ING in Germany forces you to either have a single Google approved smartphone or a single authenticator, not both.

DKB requires a paid Girocard to use the authenticator or a Google approved smartphone.

N26 requires a single phone but they are a bit lenient. However they have way too many incidents reported where they closed people's accounts without a reason.

The traditional banks have high fees. One pays upwards 10 - 15 Euros a month for Sparkasse or Commerzbank for a simple checking account. Using Sparkasse means you cannot deposit money outside county (yes county and country) borders. Many traditional banks have high fees for withdrawing outside the network.

So one is forced to choose between modern banks with better online experience that's tied to Google and Apple or a traditional bank with oftentimes awful online experience and high fees.

>>okanat+C41
My German bank started to require an Android or IOS smartphone [0]. No dedicated HW, no desktop. I actually dumped my well working Xiaomi Phone because it was either security or banking.

[0] https://www.1822direkt.de/service/fragen-und-antworten/detai...

>>riedel+ed1
I actually considered switching to 1822direkt last year. No more!

>>okanat+FR1
They used to be ahead of the bunch 20 years ago. They sent out PGP encrypted transaction statements if you wanted. Then they degraded. I think of switching to a normal Sparkasse, they typically even can do account creation with EID l, have Wero and allow 2FA Hardware.

Absurd thing is that 1822 claims to make things much more secure but their 2FA reset with a single phone PIN is a joke.