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1. harris+1U[view] [source] 2025-09-24 16:21:58
>>sschue+(OP)
> At present the project is focused on mobile platforms, specifically Android and iOS, as they cover the vast majority of users and real-world use cases. (..) Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope.

This is the equivalent of a "Do you guys not have phones??"[1] but on a way larger scale.

At least where i live i am able to use the bare minimum of phones, even working with tech. The friction is increasing though, which worries me a lot, and day after day there is a new attempt to shove it down your throat if you want to be considered a member of society. Seeing that a lot of countries (including mine) are pushing for age verification, and the whole thing about Android blocking 'sideload', by the end of 2026 you won't be considered a human being without a government certified smartphone.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly10r6m_-n8

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2. bonobo+Ni1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 18:19:33
>>harris+1U
Another recent news about mandated app use: Ryanair now (from November) requires using their app for the boarding pass, no more printouts from the desktop. Also, they refuse to show the QR code for the boarding pass in a mobile browser via the website, you must use their app.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/travel/news/ryanair-s-new-check-in...

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3. llimos+Nj1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 18:23:53
>>bonobo+Ni1
Big difference between a private company mandating app use, and a government
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4. bonobo+3m1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 18:33:27
>>llimos+Nj1
I disagree. It's a tandem, and corporations and the government are increasingly welded together.

Also, I'm not too worried about the airport usecase as we're already being tracked and surveilled and inspected there as much as possible.

But it's another step to normalize and mandate phone and app use. The puzzle pieces are falling in place. Soon, AI could screen-capture your phone screen to detect suspicious activity, and track every tap you do, also taking pictures with the front-facing camera without you knowing, listening on the mic, etc. etc., connecting it all to your real identity. Because why not? If it's done step by step, nobody will care at all. Maybe that sounds pessimistic, but it looks like the end game and I see no principled political stance against it, nor any insurmountable technical hurdles.

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5. card_z+Gv1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 19:25:04
>>bonobo+3m1
> increasingly welded together

That's an insinuation with some vague truth to it, but not much. Budget airlines are not government departments, and competition between them isn't phony.

"The sky is blue" "I feel that it is increasingly yellow"

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6. bonobo+xw1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 19:29:29
>>card_z+Gv1
There's little competition pressure because consumers don't care. I guess the standard theory says that the buck ends there. If people are fine with it, it's fine.
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7. card_z+Sw1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 19:31:16
>>bonobo+xw1
Now you're talking! People suck, it's their fault.
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8. bonobo+fF1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 20:19:08
>>card_z+Sw1
We'd do well with taking an honest stock of what allowed the formation of democracies and civil liberties, because likely it wasn't that average people longed for it so much that it happened. It's out of my weight class to pitch a grand narrative for this, but we've seen many forms of societies and governances and the current one (or from 20 years ago) won't be the last.
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