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1. bileka+vb[view] [source] 2025-09-24 13:07:53
>>sschue+(OP)
This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out.

> Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope.

What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ?

One can dream perhaps. Until then adults who are willing to 'do what they're told' will be the ones who are inconvenienced by this constantly.

Edit: Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online.

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2. qiine+yc[view] [source] 2025-09-24 13:14:02
>>bileka+vb
This read more like "we thought pc was a dead relic of the past" sadly
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3. ktosob+El[view] [source] 2025-09-24 13:53:11
>>qiine+yc
Well, looking around I see more people using smartphones for anything and even not having a PC…
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4. marius+hx[view] [source] 2025-09-24 14:42:37
>>ktosob+El
But as long as there are still people using desktop computers, removing access from them is an overreach and makes these ideas totally undemocratic. I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod.

The only eventuality where this is acceptable is when desktop computers won't even be gated, and then if anyone can circumvent the problem with a computer, why is anyone even bothering with the whole thing...

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5. bigstr+jH[view] [source] 2025-09-24 15:30:04
>>marius+hx
> I am frankly baffled that an organization having the principles and know-how of the EU can even think of gating access to information with something so slipshod.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Principles in a government body don't exist. They are all crooks.

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6. HankSt+oM[view] [source] 2025-09-24 15:51:27
>>bigstr+jH
It doesn't surprise me either, because I'd never be able to use a phrase like "the principles and know-how of the EU" with a straight face. (To be fair, you could replace "the EU" with almost any large bureaucracy.)
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7. marius+RQ[view] [source] 2025-09-24 16:09:18
>>HankSt+oM
Sure. But the EU is not just your average bureaucracy. It's an entity that has as one of it's specific goals the following[1]:

> combat social exclusion and discrimination

[1] https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...

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8. graeme+Wd1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 17:57:19
>>marius+RQ
Any large bureaucracy has similarly lofty official goals
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9. marius+yn1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 18:41:25
>>graeme+Wd1
I understand we're all old and cynical here, but one of the tenets of discussions on HN would be to take someone's arguments at face value, so I prefer to believe that the EU as an organization actually wants to diminish social exclusion and discrimination. I'm not sure if I'd give the same credit to any other capitalist entity, but the EU does not have the implicit goal of increasing revenue for its shareholders to subvert any of the others stated.
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10. graeme+px1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 19:34:13
>>marius+yn1
Lots of countries have has similar goals and lofty promises in its constitution.

I take your argument at face value (in that I take it that you believe the EU has that goal at some level). I just to not expect it, as an organisation, to consistently promote that goal (for much the same reasons lots of countries fail to serve their citizens).

Profit making businesses have the explicit goal of making shareholders better off. Management usually choose to balance this against other goals (ethics, the good of wider society, their own interests...), just as the EU has the explicit aim you state, but, similarly, has other conflicting aims.

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