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1. JohnBo+PG[view] [source] 2025-09-23 18:35:37
>>bradge+(OP)
This is a great account of "what."

I'm still struggling to understand the "why."

(That's not an implicit criticism of the article, which is extremely appreciated because it's neutral and factual)

I've been away from Ruby for a few years but Shopify always seemed like a huge net positive, sponsoring lots of valuable work on both Ruby and Rails. I never followed Ruby community happenings very closely but I'm not aware of negative feelings towards their community role in the past.

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2. tyre+rJ[view] [source] 2025-09-23 18:50:18
>>JohnBo+PG
Plus one.

Reading through this, I’m not sure what the fear is of Shopify taking a larger role. They’ve been strong contributors to Ruby for a really long time. Not that I agree with the actions, but I can’t parse what nefarious motives they might have from this article.

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3. Ethery+ce1[view] [source] 2025-09-23 21:40:40
>>tyre+rJ
Replace Shopfiy with Microsoft, Oracle or etc and surely you can see what worries people might have around a move like this. Just because a company has a positive imago does not mean that their motives align with that of the community.
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4. neilk+m63[view] [source] 2025-09-24 13:46:47
>>Ethery+ce1
Microsoft and Oracle sold closed source software that had obtained tremendous leverage in their fields, if not outright monopolies. Historically, Microsoft and Oracle’s business models were threatened by open source. They have reacted in various ways over decades: alternately resisting, embracing, or acquiring control of important projects.

However, Shopify sells SAAS thst runs on open source. What does it benefit them to take over key aspects of infrastructure?

If they disliked what was happening with the OSS tools, they are big and rich enough to maintain forks or their own toolchain.

The OP seems to be associating the start of this controversy with some feud between DHH and the founder of Sidekiq. Shopify is indeed quite aligned with DHH. And there’s some controversy about so-called supply chain attacks, which I understand might inspire a call for a more locked-down organization. But as an outsider I am confused.

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