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1. JohnBo+PG[view] [source] 2025-09-23 18:35:37
>>bradge+(OP)
This is a great account of "what."

I'm still struggling to understand the "why."

(That's not an implicit criticism of the article, which is extremely appreciated because it's neutral and factual)

I've been away from Ruby for a few years but Shopify always seemed like a huge net positive, sponsoring lots of valuable work on both Ruby and Rails. I never followed Ruby community happenings very closely but I'm not aware of negative feelings towards their community role in the past.

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2. X0nic+oR[view] [source] 2025-09-23 19:35:27
>>JohnBo+PG
The "what" seems to be purely a reaction to this article DHH posted: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

Apparently, the reason is having an incorrect opinion.

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3. array_+Yr1[view] [source] 2025-09-23 23:06:35
>>X0nic+oR
I don't know why everyone pretends that having an incorrect opinion is some untouchable thing and we just have to respect it.

Everyone, you included, has opinions that they find unpalatable. Pretty much all of human history has been "cancelling" people for "incorrect opinions". I mean, what were the crusades? Or world war II?

There's no, like, gun to your head saying you have to respect things you don't respect. Some things are just not respectable. You're allowed to be like "no" and then decide to get as far away from the person as possible.

And, relatedly - you don't have to run away. You can push them away.

Its not really fair that crazy people are allowed to say crazy things then we, normal people, have to take the high ground and walk away. What if I don't want to walk away? Why do I have to leave a project like it's the plague because you said something insane?

Anyway, just my two cents.

Also, just to be clear: I don't think DHH is crazy or evil. I'm addressed the broader concept, not this specific case.

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4. tbrown+fD1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 00:30:17
>>array_+Yr1
> Its not really fair that crazy people are allowed to say crazy things then we, normal people, have to take the high ground and walk away. What if I don't want to walk away? Why do I have to leave a project like it's the plague because you said something insane?

This takes as axiomatic that people with incompatible beliefs in one area cannot work together in a different area.

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5. tooman+ZU1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 02:54:21
>>tbrown+fD1
> This takes as axiomatic that people with incompatible beliefs in one area cannot work together in a different area.

"Beliefs" are when you think The Strokes are superior to The White Stripes, or that Giordano's deep dish pizza is superior to Lou Malnati's, or that IPAs are better than lagers. I'll happily work with people who espouse those beliefs, despite my beliefs to the contrary.

I won't work with people who describe a Tommy Robinson march as "heartwarming", or who use terms like "demographic nightmare" [1] to describe immigration, or who amplify repeatedly-debunked [2] claims of "Pakistani rape gangs", all of which DHH did. That's bigotry, not beliefs.

British culture isn't being eroded by immigration. It's being shaped by it, just like it has been for thousands of years. Where do you think your culture came from- thin air?!?

- Romans gave Britain roads, baths, and Christianity.

- Anglo-Saxons gave Britain Old English.

- Vikings gave Britain laws and half its place names.

- Normans made French the language of power and fused it with English.

- The Crusades brought new foods, science, and art.

And so on and so on.

It's the height of ignorance to look at that incredibly diverse history, and then say "OK, but right now is the moment in time where we 'lock in' our culture for the rest of time." Culture has never stood still, and no one, not even DHH, gets to freeze it in place. Well, they can try, but they'll be pissing in the wind, just like the Tommy Robinson marchers were.

I'll just leave this here: the folks in this Instagram reel [3], wearing the St. George's Cross flag and clearly on their way to the march, decided to stop and get a curry first. With the caption "When you're on your way to the racist march but the immigrant food is popping."

1. https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

2. https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...

3. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOlJ_JAiKTG/

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6. rsynno+mm2[view] [source] 2025-09-24 07:46:20
>>tooman+ZU1
> ‘Bloody Beaker folk. Coming over here, rowing up the Tagus Estuary from the Iberian Peninsula in improvised rafts. Coming here with their drinking vessels. What's wrong with just cupping up the water in your hands and licking it up like a cat?’
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