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1. davidw+SW[view] [source] 2025-09-19 15:37:26
>>jolux+(OP)
Seems relevant: https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115231677684734669

I'm just reposting it though. I haven't followed any of this myself.

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2. mijoha+SY[view] [source] 2025-09-19 15:47:43
>>davidw+SW
> The unstated reason for this change was that many of the existing Rubygems maintainers have recently quit (including their only full-time engineer) due to their continued relationship with DHH.

Can someone expand on what this means? Is it a continued relationship between Ruby Central and DHH, or the maintainers and DHH? Why does the other party have a problem with that?

EDIT: It seems the post was clarified since I copy/pasted this, and it's RC and DHH. Why do the maintainers have a problem with this? I though the stated reason was about RC removing everyone's access with no warning.

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3. mperha+zZ[view] [source] 2025-09-19 15:49:57
>>mijoha+SY
I clarified the toot.
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4. mijoha+E01[view] [source] 2025-09-19 15:53:40
>>mperha+zZ
Thanks Mike, I editted, and asked this:

> Why do the maintainers have a problem with this? I thought the stated reason was about RC removing everyone's access with no warning.

I seem to remember some of DHH's controversy due to banning politics at basecamp or something. Is it related to that?

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5. bakugo+L81[view] [source] 2025-09-19 16:32:10
>>mijoha+E01
> I seem to remember some of DHH's controversy due to banning politics at basecamp or something. Is it related to that?

I wouldn't be surprised. The presence of this quote in the linked document:

> A person’s character is determined not only by their actions, but also the actions they stay silent while witnessing.

Suggests that the person who wrote it is deeply obsessed with political activism.

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6. lstodd+en1[view] [source] 2025-09-19 17:49:26
>>bakugo+L81
Inaction is an action in itself, they are right in this. IDK where you see a deep obsession in a recognition of this obvious fact.
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7. bakugo+Fx1[view] [source] 2025-09-19 18:53:46
>>lstodd+en1
No, inaction is inaction.

Claiming otherwise is just a roundabout way of saying "you must actively support my agenda at all times, otherwise I will consider you my enemy, even if you take a neutral stance" that political activists love to use to pressure normal people into supporting them.

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8. lstodd+KR1[view] [source] 2025-09-19 20:45:52
>>bakugo+Fx1
Inaction is a manifestation of one of two things: ignorance, or conscious decision to not act. I agree that strictly only the latter can be considered an act, while the former .. well. Not an act, but a then the question arises if an unconscious person can even be considered a person _in_relation_to_having_a_conversation_with_them_. That last point I must even more press.

I think this is what we are discussing. Please share your viewpoint on this.

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9. derefr+F02[view] [source] 2025-09-19 21:32:01
>>lstodd+KR1
> Inaction is a manifestation of one of two things: ignorance, or conscious decision to not act.

Under which of these categories would you classify the following assertion:

> As much as I've learned about subject X, I still feel that neither I — nor most people who are already acting, for that matter — truly have enough information to take an informed stance here, as the waters are being actively clouded by propaganda campaigns, censorship, and false-flag operations by one or both sides; and I believe that acting without true knowledge can only play into someone's hand in a way that may damage what turns out to be an innocent party I would highly regret damaging, when this all shakes out a decade down the line. I find myself too knowingly ignorant to conscientiously act... yet I also do not highly prioritize gaining any more information about the situation, as I have seemingly passed the threshold where acquiring additional verifiable and objective information on the conflict is cheap enough to be worth it; gaining any further knowledge to inform my stance is too costly for someone like me, who is neither an investigative journalist, nor a historiographer, nor enmeshed in the conflict myself. So I fear I must opt out of the conflict altogether.

I find myself increasingly arriving at exactly this stance on so many subjects that other people seem to readily take stances (and allow themselves to be spurred to action) on.

I suppose I may differ from the average person in at least one way — that being that, if I were tricked into harming innocent parties, I would hold myself to account for allowing myself to be tricked, rather than externalizing blame to the party responsible for tricking me. After all, only by my learning a lesson in avoiding being manipulated, do I actually lessen the likelihood of the next innocent party coming to harm. Which is a lot more important to me, in a rule-utilitarian sense, than is avoiding social approbation for not taking a stance.

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