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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. Hackbr+Wd[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:58:00
>>zx8080+E7
I switched to a Linux smartphone because I've had enough of the duopoly.

I also switched banks so I can use my bank card as the 2FA device, similar to CAP. [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program

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3. russne+7h[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:36:14
>>Hackbr+Wd
Which one?
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4. Hackbr+si[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:48:50
>>russne+7h
It’s a Librem 5. I’m looking for a more powerful model that can also run mainline(-ish) Linux.
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5. russne+9k[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:06:54
>>Hackbr+si
Seeing as GrapheneOS appear to be recommended on the newest Pixel models, I wonder if it shouldn't be too difficult to get Arch Linux running on them with the AUR plasma-mobile?
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6. nunobr+gl[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:19:42
>>russne+9k
Run away from Graphene, it is suspicious at best scenario and dangerous at worst.

Just observe that the key factor is to be independent from Google and then the only recommended devices from their side are exactly google devices where nobody here can have an idea of what is modified inside them.

You'd be better off supporting other distributions like Calyx, which have no problems in supporting other devices like the fairphone and so on.

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7. duesab+Ml[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:24:23
>>nunobr+gl
I was very interested in Graphene, do you have other grounds for your suspicions?
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8. fsflov+1y[view] [source] 2025-09-02 09:36:51
>>duesab+Ml
I agree with the parent. GrapheneOS puts security above freedom, which is wrong. It forces you to give your money to Google and rely on Google hardware, which is questionable in the long term. They refuse to support different hardware "for your security". Their developers are constantly attacking GNU/Linux phones, which are the actual long-term solution for both freedom and security.

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9. backsc+p3v[view] [source] 2025-09-12 02:32:14
>>fsflov+1y
I have been using google phones since the nexus and have never given google any money or paid more than $300 far a device. I am essentially pirating billions of dollars of expert development from them and they get nothing in return. In a real way I am actively siphoning value from google making them lose money (they get none of my data, which is what they hoped to actieve by producing the hardware).
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10. fsflov+PZw[view] [source] 2025-09-12 19:13:30
>>backsc+p3v
If you're talking about buying used Pixels, you are affecting the market effectively increasing the value of Google's phones, which in the end benefits Google.
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11. backsc+A2y[view] [source] 2025-09-13 05:31:39
>>fsflov+PZw
I get more out of it than they do.
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