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1. didget+ya1[view] [source] 2025-09-11 01:45:41
>>david9+(OP)
There are a number of outspoken people on the other end of the political spectrum from me, that I vehemently disagree with. While I would love to see their words either ignored or condemned by the masses; I have no desire to see them killed or harmed in any way.

I wish more people on both ends of the political spectrum felt that way. Either committing or supporting violence against those we disagree with, has no place in a civil society.

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2. paulry+Hi2[view] [source] 2025-09-11 12:59:05
>>didget+ya1
> I wish more people on both ends of the political spectrum felt that way.

Agreed. Sadly the leader of one side openly and repeatedly calls for violence against anyone who disrupts his speeches [0]. The former leader of the other side condemns political violence and even calls his opponent after an attack out of concern for his welfare. [1]

[0] https://time.com/4203094/donald-trump-hecklers/

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/14/bide...

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3. Andrew+Un3[view] [source] 2025-09-11 19:23:48
>>paulry+Hi2
This is a really disingenuous and biased selection of sources. One could find systemic examples of inflammatory rethoric from almost anyone in US politics: Biden, Obama, Trump, Waltz, Harris, DeSantis, Newsome, etc.

Ironically, assassinated Charlie Kirk was one of the most reserved US public figures in this regard.

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4. hellot+wu3[view] [source] 2025-09-11 20:09:44
>>Andrew+Un3
you can find inflammatory rhetoric from any human being ever, that is obviously true, but it’s also disingenuous to act like trump is not the most inflammatory and devisive leader America has had in modern history. Look at how he responded to the murders of the Hortmans in Minnesota relative to how Biden responded to his assassination attempt or how most (if not all) democratic lawmakers are responding to this

And while political violence is abhorrent Kirk was no angel. In the aftermath of this his views on gun violence have been echoed widely but he is a man that called for political opponents (namely Joe Biden) to face the death penalty [0]. That page outlines much more. So are his calls for political violence including the death of his opponents, inflammatory language like slurs[0], encouraging violence against immigrants and transgender athletes[0] “reserved”? I would hate to see what you consider out of line then

[0] https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-has-h...

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5. Andrew+iE5[view] [source] 2025-09-12 16:34:59
>>hellot+wu3
> it’s also disingenuous to act like trump is not the most inflammatory and devisive leader America has had in modern history.

I'm not from the US, and do not have a horse in this fight, but I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of people in the US who believe that the most inflammatory and divisive leader America had in modern history was Obama. The main difference between Trump and Obama is that Trump is teared apart by the media, while Obama was cuddled by it.

(btw, speaking from my non-US experience, when a leader is cuddled by the press, it is a bad sign, not a good one)

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6. bluech+gX5[view] [source] 2025-09-12 18:29:40
>>Andrew+iE5
The press does not “cuddle”. Did the Kremlim cut the budget for English classes?
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7. Andrew+ne6[view] [source] 2025-09-12 20:07:12
>>bluech+gX5
Of course, the press does cuddle its darlings. Compare any first-term Trump's press conference with Biden's press conference: a pack of wolves that screamed and shouted suddenly morphed into cute fawning puppies: "what kind of ice cream do you like, mr president?"

Regarding your accusation that I work for Kremlin, you should be ashamed of yourself to say such things to a person who was literally beaten by Putin's polizai for protesting his policies. In your simplistic mindset, anyone who has a differing opinion from you surely must be a paid troll working for evil people. It is very fitting that you exhibit this attitude in a discussion about a person who was killed for his views. Should I be shot, too? I surely have it coming, right?

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