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1. themgt+Rx[view] [source] 2025-09-10 21:43:26
>>david9+(OP)
But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times.

My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote:

"Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."

What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country ...

We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past -- and we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder.

But the vast majority of [people] in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land.

And let's dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.

Bobby Kennedy, 1968

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2kWIa8wSC0

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2. mmastr+Oz[view] [source] 2025-09-10 21:51:11
>>themgt+Rx
Speech made in April, 1968, assassinated on June 5, 1968. Wild.
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3. ethbr1+rV[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:47:57
>>mmastr+Oz
>> Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land! [April 3, 1968 in Memphis, Tennessee]

Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

So perhaps a better excerpt in light of recent events would be

>> And another reason that I'm happy to live in [the second half of the 20th century] is that we have been forced to a point where we are going to have to grapple with the problems that men have been trying to grapple with through history, but the demands didn't force them to do it. Survival demands that we grapple with them. Men, for years now, have been talking about war and peace. But now, no longer can they just talk about it. It is no longer a choice between violence and nonviolence in this world; it's nonviolence or nonexistence. That is where we are today.

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4. yakz+SW[view] [source] 2025-09-11 00:00:12
>>ethbr1+rV
It turns out, at least so far, we can still choose violence.
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5. ethbr1+vY[view] [source] 2025-09-11 00:10:59
>>yakz+SW
His point was that once the physical power individuals/governments hold exceeds a threshold, a pluralistic society cannot coexist with violence being an acceptable option.

In the context of the 1960s, governments and nuclear weapons. But more broadly the same holds true for individuals.

Either we learn to live together despite our differences, or we use our newfound great power to annihilate each other.

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6. giardi+hO2[view] [source] 2025-09-11 15:49:32
>>ethbr1+vY
ethbr1 says "...or we use our newfound great power to annihilate each other."

That isn't possible without bio-warfare. I sometimes hear people foolishly speak of a shooting "race war" in the USA but always remind them that the active phase of such an event would last about 15 minutes.

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7. ethbr1+n04[view] [source] 2025-09-12 00:49:51
>>giardi+hO2
Distributed mass hunting rifle shots on high voltage transformers.

Unguarded. Scattered around the country. Any oil leaks potentially destroy them. Manufacturing backlogs of multiple years.

https://www.energy.gov/oe/addressing-security-and-reliabilit...

The only thing that's kept domestic terrorism to a minimum is that anyone smart enough to do it well has better economic opportunities.

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8. more_c+ee4[view] [source] 2025-09-12 03:41:28
>>ethbr1+n04
The tragedy is that several players in the transformer market went out of business because they ramped up due to the building boom before the financial crisis. If I weren’t busy I’d go buy one of those old factories and open it back up. Great boring business to be in.
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