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1. loughn+Bg1[view] [source] 2025-09-11 02:37:24
>>david9+(OP)
The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor.

I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about ideas, and that's something that we should have more of.

That should be something that we strive for, but I fear we'll see it less and less. Who'se going to want to go around and argue with people now?

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2. passwo+OQ1[view] [source] 2025-09-11 08:47:32
>>loughn+Bg1
It is a performance that appears as a debate.
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3. loughn+S62[view] [source] 2025-09-11 11:32:13
>>passwo+OQ1
I agree with that. As I said elsewhere it's a shame that we don't get better.

If you compare it with the more sober, reflectful sort (eg russell vs copleston on the existence of God [0]) you can see how far we've fallen.

Nevertheless, his killing I think will make us slide even further.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpADrtr85iM&pp=ygUlYmVydHJhb...

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