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1. bigstr+XD[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:08:30
>>david9+(OP)
I bang on a lot about not saying things like "this person is a threat to democracy" and other such apocalyptic statements. This right here is a perfect example of why: when you steep people in a culture that tells them someone is (or their ideas are) an existential threat, eventually someone is going to be the right level of scared + unstable that causes them to kill people to try to defend their way of life.

If you find this horrifying (and I hope you do, because there can be no moral justification for celebrating murder), then I encourage you to really think about whether we would not be better off without such extremist language poisoning people's minds. We have to try to stop escalating, or the cycle is going to destroy our society.

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2. kybern+LG[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:22:18
>>bigstr+XD
You start your comment saying we should avoid making apocalyptic statements and end it by saying "the cycle is going to destroy our society".

My conclusion is that you don't mind making apocalyptic statements about actions you think are dangerous to society, which sits uncomfortably with your asking other people not to.

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3. kryoge+tN[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:59:51
>>kybern+LG
> My conclusion is that you don't mind making apocalyptic statements about actions you think are dangerous to society, which sits uncomfortably with your asking other people not to.

This is a nonsense argument. It is possible that constantly making apocalyptic statements can result in an apocalypse, and saying that people should stop doing that is not contradictory.

The words you use matter. If trump is an existential threat to democracy, he should be assassinated. If you're not advocating for murderous escalation, then stop using those words (for example).

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4. zamada+rQ[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:16:27
>>kryoge+tN
> If trump is an existential threat to democracy, he should be assassinated.

Who/what is defining assassination as a reasonable response to that threat, who/what maintains the list of words which can replace "democracy" in that section, and what happens when someone disagrees with the maintainer of that list?

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5. kryoge+dR[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:20:44
>>zamada+rQ
Those are all great questions, and why the point under discussion is whether or not we should choose our words more carefully and stop making apocalyptic predictions.
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6. tempod+XZ1[view] [source] 2025-09-11 10:24:52
>>kryoge+dR
> stop making apocalyptic predictions.

You’re one to talk.

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