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1. csours+kk[view] [source] 2025-09-10 20:48:54
>>david9+(OP)
History books can tell you facts that happened, but they can never truly tell you how it feels.

I feel we're riding a knife's edge and there's a hurricane brewing in the gulf of absurdity.

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Incidentally, I feel like this is why it is so hard to actually learn from history. You can read about the 1918 'Spanish' Flu, but you think "we're smarter now". etc.

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2. sporkx+XL[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:49:35
>>csours+kk
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3. panark+sN[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:59:39
>>sporkx+XL
HN has thousands of comments debating the justification for killing tens of thousands of non-combatants in Palestine.

More posts debating the justification for killing 11 people in a boat in the Caribbean who did not pose an imminent threat.

HN rules do not prevent any of these discussions.

But here we have a individual who advocated those killings.

Here we have an individual who publicly justified school massacres by saying those senseless deaths are a worthwhile price to pay for gun rights in the US.

On HN it's perfectly fine to justify all this violence, to argue that the violence is regrettable but necessary, but any equivalent discussion about this one individual is somehow beyond the pale.

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4. averag+XP[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:13:31
>>panark+sN
> Here we have an individual who publicly justified school massacres by saying those senseless deaths are a worthwhile price to pay for gun rights in the US.

I'm an outside observer, but isn't that the point of the right to bear arms in your constitution? I don't think the people who wrote it were naive enough to not understand guns could be used for evil purposes, so inherently they supported the price of the deaths of innocents as a trade off for the benefits of guns, right?

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5. jebark+NR[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:23:32
>>averag+XP
I think it’s worth posting the actual wording of the 2nd amendment:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

There’s endless legal debate how this should be interpreted, but it’s not obvious that there was an assumption that there would be mass individual gun ownership.

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6. Aeolun+BS[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:29:00
>>jebark+NR
I think that’s pretty much the only way you can make that work? I’m against gun ownership, but I feel like you really need to stretch things to read that any other way than ‘people shall be allowed to own their own guns’
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7. jebark+xT[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:34:17
>>Aeolun+BS
I almost don’t want to respond since this is well trodden ground, but I would say that “a well regulated militia” casts doubt on the individual gun ownership interpretation. You have to decide who the militia exists to fight and therefore who should regulate them. It’s obviously not obvious though.
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