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1. roshin+39[view] [source] 2025-09-10 19:56:18
>>david9+(OP)
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2. pcj-gi+Tc[view] [source] 2025-09-10 20:16:50
>>roshin+39
If this turns out to be real, a direct shot to the left carotid artery. Theoretically could be survivable but not without serious deficit and stroke. Agree likely fatal.
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3. tomrod+ce[view] [source] 2025-09-10 20:22:36
>>pcj-gi+Tc
The other indicators are pretty clearly a spinal shot. Extremely likely he is dead.

I'm going to hug my family a little tighter tonight. 46th school shooting of the year, and the 47th also happening in Colorado.

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4. nicce+Mp[view] [source] 2025-09-10 21:11:17
>>tomrod+ce
He lost conscious immediately which is not explainable with blood loss alone that fast - which may indicate that there was a higher impact from the shot.
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5. Calava+BP[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:11:53
>>nicce+Mp
It's not a case of losing blood, it's a case of failing to move blood to the right place. If the shot took out the carotid, then (nearly) 50% of the blood supply to his brain is gone because of a piping failure. That can absolutely cause instantaneous loss of consciousness, no direct brain trauma necessary.

This is very different than bleeding from, say, a major artery in a leg. In that case the issue isn't loss of piping to the brain, it's losing blood until the total blood volume in the body isn't sufficient to maintain a workable blood pressure, and yes that can take multiple minutes before a person loses consciousness.

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6. nicce+mR[view] [source] 2025-09-10 23:21:37
>>Calava+BP
You can live with single carotid [1]. But maybe the change is too fast. It is exremely difficult to say without knowing more.

1: https://biologyinsights.com/can-you-live-with-one-carotid-ar...

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