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1. petaby+62[view] [source] 2025-09-10 19:16:03
>>david9+(OP)
Prayers for Charlie and his family, violence against people you disagree with is never the answer
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2. treeta+V6[view] [source] 2025-09-10 19:43:39
>>petaby+62
I agree that we should not try to resolve America's current problems with violence. (And to be clear, I am an ardent pacifist and urge change in the ways of King, Gandhi, etc.)

Still, violence has been the answer in many (most?) political revolutions, including the American revolution and separation from Britain.

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3. lovich+X7[view] [source] 2025-09-10 19:49:33
>>treeta+V6
Anyone who says violence is _never_ the answer is frankly, naive to history and power.

Violence and politics are both on a spectrum and means to the same end of asserting your will. Vom Kriege is obviously not the forefront of philosophy anymore but it’s a good place to start if anyone reading this hasn’t come across that idea and wants to learn more.

Even your non violent examples of King and Ghandi has very violent wings on the side showing society that if a resolution wasn’t achieved by peaceful ends then violence it is. Remember that the civil rights act didn’t get enough support to be passed until after King was assassinated and mass riots rose across the nation

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4. JumpCr+kg[view] [source] 2025-09-10 20:31:18
>>lovich+X7
> Anyone who says violence is _never_ the answer is frankly, naive to history and power

Violence is sometimes the answer. Domestic assassinations almost never are. Kirk is about to become a martyr.

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5. tempod+hC[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:00:47
>>JumpCr+kg
And who knows what retribution measures his death will be the justification for.
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6. JumpCr+GF[view] [source] 2025-09-10 22:18:08
>>tempod+hC
> what retribution measures his death will be the justification for

To be fair, crazy people will justify their craziness with anything. The problem is less what this may be used to justify and more that it creates a more-permissive environment for further political violence.

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