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1. zx8080+E7[view] [source] 2025-09-02 04:39:14
>>joseph+(OP)
This story with restricting users is a similar one to Manifest V3 in Chromium.

But we don't have anything like FF as an alternative to go from Android. Especially considering banks require "certified OS".

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2. Hackbr+Wd[view] [source] 2025-09-02 05:58:00
>>zx8080+E7
I switched to a Linux smartphone because I've had enough of the duopoly.

I also switched banks so I can use my bank card as the 2FA device, similar to CAP. [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program

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3. russne+7h[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:36:14
>>Hackbr+Wd
Which one?
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4. Hackbr+si[view] [source] 2025-09-02 06:48:50
>>russne+7h
It’s a Librem 5. I’m looking for a more powerful model that can also run mainline(-ish) Linux.
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5. russne+9k[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:06:54
>>Hackbr+si
Seeing as GrapheneOS appear to be recommended on the newest Pixel models, I wonder if it shouldn't be too difficult to get Arch Linux running on them with the AUR plasma-mobile?
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6. nunobr+gl[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:19:42
>>russne+9k
Run away from Graphene, it is suspicious at best scenario and dangerous at worst.

Just observe that the key factor is to be independent from Google and then the only recommended devices from their side are exactly google devices where nobody here can have an idea of what is modified inside them.

You'd be better off supporting other distributions like Calyx, which have no problems in supporting other devices like the fairphone and so on.

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7. duesab+Ml[view] [source] 2025-09-02 07:24:23
>>nunobr+gl
I was very interested in Graphene, do you have other grounds for your suspicions?
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8. fsflov+1y[view] [source] 2025-09-02 09:36:51
>>duesab+Ml
I agree with the parent. GrapheneOS puts security above freedom, which is wrong. It forces you to give your money to Google and rely on Google hardware, which is questionable in the long term. They refuse to support different hardware "for your security". Their developers are constantly attacking GNU/Linux phones, which are the actual long-term solution for both freedom and security.

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9. schees+BD[view] [source] 2025-09-02 10:27:56
>>fsflov+1y
I don't think I've ever read any solid refutation of the technical choices of the project, mostly just character attacks, the basis of which are dodgy at best. They're completely up-front about the limitations and catches of their choices, too.

Those links don't really help your case, to be frank. Nothing strcat says reads as incorrect or even particularly controversial, they have personal beef with CalyxOS but their criticisms of the choices of the project are largely on point. They're justifiably upset by the mental health accusations too, it's kind of a joke that one of those people in the thread tried to gaslight strcat about how these accusations are somehow not a recurring issue when I, as a third party observer, have seen it come up all the fucking time.

Meanwhile, you're imagining "attacks" on GNU/Linux phones, when most of what I read from them regarding those was sober and reasonable, if not particularly positive, but they're allowed to do that. Their priorities are clearly security and none of those phones really have any.

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10. jamesn+cJ[view] [source] 2025-09-02 11:18:18
>>schees+BD
>Their priorities are clearly security and none of those phones really have any.

As opposed to a black box from Google, that nobody really knows exactly what it does...

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