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>>kotaKa+(OP)
Meaning to use your device you need to have a contractual relationship with a foreign (unless you are in the US) third party that decides what you can or cannot do with it. Plus using GrapheneOS is less of an option every day, since banks and other "regulated" sectors use Google Play Protect and similar DRMs to prevent you from connecting from whatever device you want. Client-side "trust" means the provider owning the device, not the user.

Android shouldn't be considered Open Source anymore, since source code is published in batches and only part of the system is open, with more and more apps going behind the Google ecosystem itself.

Maybe it's time for a third large phone OS, whether it comes from China getting fed up with the US and Google's shenanigans (Huawei has HarmonyOS but it's not open) or some "GNU/Linux" touch version that has a serious ecosystem. Especially when more and more apps and services are "mobile-first" or "mobile-only" like banking.

>>arielc+542
> Maybe it's time for a third large phone OS

I don't think that the problem is the OS. The problem is access to the hardware. Hardware manufacturers can decide to prevent you from installing an alternative OS on your hardware.

If the law made it mandatory to allow this, it would be a lot easier to go with alternative OSes like GrapheneOS.

> Huawei has HarmonyOS but it's not open

I was thinking at some point that they would go with AOSP and their own Huawei Services on top. Could have been fun. Also I wonder why they don't just support GrapheneOS as an alternative OS.