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1. medhir+Lg1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 03:18:33
>>kotaKa+(OP)
Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own.

Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

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2. ozim+2Y1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 10:23:13
>>medhir+Lg1
Tell that to all those assholes that are making malware and scamming society on billions.

Most of users are not able to keep themselves safe in the internet - they want to install all kind of crap without thinking too much.

All of this is companies making it possible that average Joe could just click links, install any kind of crap and still be somewhat secure.

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3. thecup+T12[view] [source] 2025-08-26 10:53:33
>>ozim+2Y1
This is not related to malware or scams, and using that is nothing but a PR smoke screen.

While Android is vulnerable, especially to user stupidity, people mostly get scammed by fake credit card charges or by giving access to their notifications and contacts allowing for spam.

And yes, while there are "infected" APK's for popular apps , this again isn't the case here.

The real case here is money.

Apple earns $27B from commision on apps, while Google earns about $3B. Why?

Because Android users are "less willing to pay", which includes pirated APK's and "unlocked" app versions. Eliminating the possibility of using these for 99% of the people will be enough to force them to pay for that app/service in the end, raising the Play store revenues.

Do not trust Google when it comes to "doing it for the user" - their mission is to establish as strong of a monopoly on the platforms and extract as much value as possible. They spent more money on lawyers & policy lobbyists in the last 10 years trying to keep Android closed than some S&P500 companies are worth.

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4. carefu+q72[view] [source] 2025-08-26 11:42:30
>>thecup+T12
My opinion on this changed as we helped elderly parents with declining capabilities. The internet is an extremely dangerous place for those less cognitively able.

It is extremely hard to live without the internet - it's almost impossible - everything from your bank to your doctor to restaurants to the barber that wants to be paid by Venmo. Taking away your parent's internet connection is even harder than taking away their driver license. (And also more isolating.)

There is no law enforcement; there's no consequence for scammers; there's no technology stack that is safe for the less able. It's a brutal Wild West where the weakest are attacked without recourse, flooded with misinformation and lies, and targeted by significant financial scams.

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5. accoun+lb2[view] [source] 2025-08-26 12:07:44
>>carefu+q72
Driving is also extremely dangerous for the less congnitive able, that doesn't mean that we should let BMW decide where and when you are allowed to drive.

We also don't trust old people to live on their own, that doesn't mean we force every adult into dormitories.

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6. jrobla+bc2[view] [source] 2025-08-26 12:12:59
>>accoun+lb2
Driving is licensed and regulated by the government. Are you suggested internet licenses that required semi-regular tests and strict enforcement by governments?
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7. weirdp+uj2[view] [source] 2025-08-26 12:57:43
>>jrobla+bc2
Interesting choice to cherrypick and then straw man one part of one example. They didn't say the government should get to decide where someone drives; it was the OEM, BMW in their example. That is basically what Google is doing here by locking down a previously open-ish platform.

Having a license doesn't mean you are restricted in where you can go unless we start considering the fringes like provisional (learners') permits complete with curfew. Therefore, your example doesn't fit. But OP's does, because it is equivalent to asking "do you think your refrigerator should refuse to cool items manufactured by an entity it doesn't like... to Keep You Safe(tm)?" Maybe you buy from non-verified cottage industry workers at the local farmers market. People who maybe didn't upload their PII and licenses to the refrigerator manufacturer, so it refuses to operate until you remove the offending item. Out of the utmost respect for your safety, of course.

Imagine if Charter Communications/Spectrum decided to block you from using their service and modem/routers from accessing any media created by Universal (owned by their rival, Comcast). It doesn't really have anything to do with safety, but they could pearl clutch and blame it on some risqué content that Universal releases via its imprints.

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