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1. lentil+8H1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 07:54:31
>>kotaKa+(OP)
I always wonder, who are the developers doing this? don't they feel bad about going through with these changes or do they fool themselves thinking it's the right thing? is it greed?

many other fields have an explicit or implicit ethics code which we seem to lack. I'm thinking about other fields like medicine, engineering, etc. Probably since the entry level to development is low and anyone can do it, it means there's no way to enforce/teach it?

The usual answer that their livelyhoods depend on it is simplistic, these are the best paid developers in the US, pretty sure they have some sway power. There are doctors in way poorer countries with higher ethics standards.

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2. schoen+lJ1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 08:11:14
>>lentil+8H1
They think they're fighting malware, because that is their main motivation.

They're just not also worrying about other effects like making it easy for governments to ban software, or making it hard for people to write software under a pseudonym.

Paternalistic mechanisms are relatively popular in security engineering right now because users are so often unsophisticated and time-constrained, while attackers are so often sophisticated and well-resourced. Paternalism almost always responds to real risks and threats, so it doesn't feel malicious because it's not rooted in malice.

I'm glad that people are so worried about this change, because I find it really alarming. But it's not like restrictions on people's choices have been that unusual as a response to dangers in modern history. In fact, professions like public health, occupational safety, and tort law often seem to presume that the general public probably shouldn't be allowed to make certain kinds of dangerous choices. They might be ethically wrong about that, but they clearly don't see themselves as bad guys for thinking so.

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3. lentil+cL1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 08:24:49
>>schoen+lJ1
that's a good point. As a developer, this particular case obviously I understand much better and see the where it leads - the opposite direction of the openess that made PCs and computing so revolutionary in the last few decades.

It's also worrying that in this case it's a private corporation the one calling the shots. Naively, in the other cases you mention it's at least government dictated which means there's some sense of accountability and transparency to the process (not saying that it's perfect of course).

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