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1. medhir+Lg1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 03:18:33
>>kotaKa+(OP)
Every day we stray farther from the premise that we should be allowed to install / modify software on the computers we own.

Will once again re-up the concept of a “right to root access”, to prevent big corps from pulling this bs over and over again: https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

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2. wouldb+nz1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 06:41:55
>>medhir+Lg1
To be fair to Google, they got so much cricticism for allowing so many spam apps.
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3. rickde+kB1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 07:01:41
>>wouldb+nz1
It's a tricky balance-act to secure their ecosystem.

The more measures they take to secure it while allowing the user to decide whether to participate, the more drastic this opt-out user-decision becomes.

In order to now preserve that "open ecosystem", they would have to provide the user an option to disable Google Services entirely, which would turns the device almost into a separate product

All this is unlikely to happen just for the sake of "pleasing the community", I believe we need a general legally binding definition of what functions the user owns if (and when) a device is stripped of any services on top.

If my car loses functions once it loses connection to the manufacturer, this bare set should be communicated as the purchased value ("in exchange for your money"), separately from any on-top "in exchange for your data" business-model

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4. Gigach+4H1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 07:54:06
>>rickde+kB1
The problem is phones became too important. They get trusted more than desktops for things like banking and ID verification.

Feeling like the optimum solution is to just have two devices. Your phone that has all of your banking, ID, etc. and another device that’s completely open, can install whatever you want on, but doesn’t matter too much if it gets hacked.

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5. rickde+8J1[view] [source] 2025-08-26 08:09:32
>>Gigach+4H1
If this is a reasonable direction, it could still be achieved on the same device. There would be sufficient security architecture available to completely isolate those two areas.

But I feel the issue is less about malware gathering your banking, ID etc, but malware holding your data hostage, using your (social) network for nefarious purposes or tricking you into something you don't want to do.

And for all those cases, having that "other" device doesn't help.

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