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>>kotaKa+(OP)
I've grown increasingly hateful towards both my Android and iOS devices over the last decade. The platforms themselves are increasingly user-hostile, and their appstores are crammed full of shitty, privacy-invading, telemetry-hoovering, dopamine-triggering, ad-filled, lipstick-covered apps that are often garbage compared to the pioneering days of mobile. I miss the days of my old Palm Pilot.

Is anyone working on fixing this? We can do so much better.

>>rkager+DA
GrapheneOS + F-Droid is a joy to use, for me. I'm kinda shocked when I use anyone else's phone, now.

If they start selling their own devices, I will buy one and (assuming it turns out how I hope it will) recommend it strongly.

>>miloig+aC
How do you access banking and other sensitive apps? If the answer is, you don't, well, you can see how that's a non starter for the vast majority of people.

>>petral+vD
A web browser in the worst case scenario. The same way you'd do it on a computer.

>>seanw4+FG
This is quickly disappearing as an option as well. I need my bank app to authenticate even when using a web browser on desktop. Luckily my banks app still works on GrapheneOS, but I suspect it's only a matter of time before they disable that because of "security" reasons.

>>debaze+ZJ
What bank is this? No bank I know /requires/ you to use a mobile app for anything; the web is enough. 2FA can usually be done via email, SMS, or a google-authenticator-compatible app.

>>markas+lX
I should say that I'm not from the US, so that might be why you haven't heard of it.

There is also an alternative for now, but nothing as simple as SMS or authenticator app. They give you a special credit card shaped card with a card reader that you can use to authenticate with using your PIN, which is mostly considered legacy now with the bank app. It's also not realistic to be carrying this thing around everywhere either as it's bigger than my phone.

There is also a national ID app that is used everywhere that I'm worried will stop working on GrapheneOS... Because without it I won't even be able to access online government services like healthcare, taxes, etc.

>>debaze+c91
You still haven't answered their question.

Which bank?

>>Klonoa+ea1
I don't know the bank they are referring to, but I can cite an example for me: RBC Royal Bank of Canada requires the mobile app. There is nothing you can do on their website without first 2FA via their specific mobile app, and even then only in limited transaction sizes. If you want "full access" (e.g. up to $10k daily transfer via e-transfer) then you MUST use biometrics and the mobile app.