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1. Ms-J+Mt[view] [source] 2025-08-25 20:54:59
>>kotaKa+(OP)
This is the worst thing to happen to technology in recent times since there is only two major phone OS's.

It isn't possible to ban encryption, so the governments have to chip away at security and privacy using these techniques.

From: https://developer.android.com/developer-verification

"You may also need to upload official government ID."

This won't end well for Google or the governments involved when the people get so angry that they are forced to roll this back. Switch to an alternative phone OS.

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2. pessim+8F[view] [source] 2025-08-25 21:58:11
>>Ms-J+Mt
> the people get so angry that they are forced to roll this back.

This is political fantasy. There is no mechanism for "the people" to force anyone to roll this back. They can vote for the candidate owned by google, or the candidate owned by google. If they want to find another candidate, they'll have to use google to find one.

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3. rockem+0H[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:07:55
>>pessim+8F
If enough people internal at Google get pissed off and raise this up enough it can legitimately get rolled back.
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4. asdff+JH[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:12:43
>>rockem+0H
They will just get sacked for sycophants either here or abroad. For every principled worker there is, there is another person willing to eschew those principles for that paycheck. This is a desperate world by design to enable these tradeoffs by the very people who build, maintain, deploy, and ultimately control the worlds systems.
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5. saubei+yI[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:17:51
>>asdff+JH
A better world is possible. Rise up, workers! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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6. abeyer+VK[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:30:49
>>saubei+yI
and your salary
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7. saubei+IL[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:36:28
>>abeyer+VK
If the workers rise up properly, they can reposses oligarch riches instead!
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8. abeyer+cM[view] [source] 2025-08-25 22:40:08
>>saubei+IL
History has seemed to show the only likely outcome is the violent redistribution of riches from one set of oligarchs to another.
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9. achier+OV[view] [source] 2025-08-25 23:52:43
>>abeyer+cM
Based on what? Sure quips like that are catchy, but what "oligarchs" were there in the Soviet Union circa 1920-1989? The "nomenklatura", while well-off, were absolutely nowhere near the wealth of today's American oligarchs or modern (capitalist) Russian ones. Moreover, unlike oligarchs, they do not form a class: wealth does not transfer reliably one generation to the next, and individuals would phase in and out of high status according to their position in their career.

A very striking way to illustrate this is to look at the career histories of high government officials even very late into the Soviet Union. The last Minister of Coal, Mikhail Shchadov, was born in a village, worked in a mine, went to mining school for engineering, became head of his mine, and thereafter worked his way up the ranks until he was head of the whole apparatus. This story, not that of inherited wealth or monopolistic oligarchs, dominates the histories of Soviet ministers even very late in the decline of the Union.

Where is the "other set" of oligarchs of which you speak? There is none, which means there is hope for workers who might wish to enact fundamental economic change.

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