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>>azalem+(OP)
Yeah, the government that let the strets go rampant with crime, that they don't even bother tracking anymore, is concerned about the people's "online safety"...

>>coldte+j6
I always hear this but it seems to mostly be made up? Like yeah, there’s crime in London, but less than in most European or American cities… seems like a narrative that keeps being pushed without merit

>>jama21+R9
I live in London and I can tell you no, it isn't mostly made up.

The crime rates in other places is irrelevant if the city you've lived in for the last 20 years has become noticeably more dangerous.

This is not "a narrative that keeps being pushed without merit", in fact the people who dismiss such claims are often the ones who live very insulated lives.

>>indy+cc
I haven’t personally noticed London getting any more dangerous over the past 10 years that I’ve lived here.

>>foldr+Ld
You need to go out there, then.

There are areas where people do drugs openly, and overdosing, too, and no one cares. A cop walked past a lady overdosing.

You should watch videos of YouTubers going to these areas if you do not want to do it yourself.

The areas are famous for tourists where most phone snatching is rampant, 18 a day at a minimum, on one famous street alone.

FWIW, I am talking about London.

>>johnis+ue
When we know that peoples perceptions of crime levels are entirely divorced from reality, perhaps you should spend less time watching Youtube, and more time looking at the actual stats.

Crime overall is at a low level historically in the England, per the Crime Survey of England and Wales, which track actual victims through surveys.

That's not to say the UK couldn't do much better, but this fearmongering is basically repeating far-right conspiracy claims pushed by the press that are not supported by data including by peoples actual responses when asked if they have actually been a victim as per the Crime Survey.

From The Guardian reporting on Crime Survey numbers for London relative to the rest:

"According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. But what about different types of crime?"

>>vidarh+Dh
> When we know that peoples perceptions of crime levels are entirely divorced from reality, perhaps you should spend less time watching Youtube, and more time looking at the actual stats

When we know that police is understaffed and can't respond to all crime, perhaps you should spend less time blindly trusting the numbers. You, too, can't build an argument on unreliable data. Just like the poster you're replying to.

>>j-krie+0j
The numbers I'm referring to are from the Crime Survey for England and Wales which surveys people rather than rely on crime reports, so police staffing is entirely irrelevant to these numbers.

This was literally pointed out in the comment you replied to.

>>vidarh+rj
People are inherently unstrustworthy sources of such data.

>>j-krie+9R
When they are asked about their firsthand experience as victims of crime, they may still be untrustworthy but they're still going to be far more trustworthy than the alternatives.