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1. throwa+Hq[view] [source] 2025-08-10 20:34:54
>>tokai+(OP)
Please also fight mandatory age verification with prison sentences. The European Parliament has already voted in favor of a law that mandates age verification for pornography with a one year prison sentence. It was included as a last minute amendment into this bill [1]. See "Amendment 186". It has been completely missed by news organizations and even interest groups.

The full accepted article reads: "Disseminating pornographic content online without putting in place robust and effective age verification tools to effectively prevent children from accessing pornographic content online shall be punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 1 year."

It's not law yet, as the first reading is now sent back to the Council of the European Union, but I don't think it's very likely it will get a second reading.

[1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-10-2025-011...

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2. steve_+y21[view] [source] 2025-08-11 02:59:18
>>throwa+Hq
I personally support age verification for porn. However, age verification for almost anything else, e.g. Reddit, is a terrible idea.
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3. IshKeb+io1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 08:01:13
>>steve_+y21
Yeah I think you have it backwards. I don't think anyone has demonstrated any actual harms from porn, but social networks regularly fuck teenagers up.

I definitely would prefer my children to watch porn than get bullied - or worse - on social media.

There's also the fact that I vaguely trust Facebook or Reddit to do a credit card-based age check or whatever. No way I'm giving any of my details to porn sites.

Stupid dumb law.

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4. uyzstv+MA1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 10:04:19
>>IshKeb+io1
> I don't think anyone has demonstrated any actual harms from porn

That's disingenuous and false. It's pretty common knowledge that pornography is not representative of real relationships, and because it's not actually emotionally satisfying, it takes regular consumers down a rabbit hole of increasingly extreme, vile and obscure content. Take a guess what that does to a developing teenager, essentially being educated by pornography. Not to say that it's not harmful to adults too, because it is.

But yes, government control, censorship and centralization of the internet is not the solution. Mandatory ID checks will not protect any kids, it will destroy the free and open internet.

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5. IshKeb+dB1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 10:10:12
>>uyzstv+MA1
> It's pretty common knowledge that pornography is not representative of real relationships, and because it's not actually emotionally satisfying, it takes regular consumers down a rabbit hole of increasingly extreme, vile and obscure content.

That's not common knowledge or true. Most of the population watches porn. Where's the harm?

> pornography is not representative of real relationships

No shit. Next you'll be telling me that Batman isn't representative of real billionaires.

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6. ost-in+7H1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 11:17:49
>>IshKeb+dB1
Love it when you make a statement that porn isnt harmful without referencing any studies, and then demand studies for people to prove it is harmful. You are the one who made the original claim that its not harmful, the burden of proof is on you.
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7. immibi+gQ1[view] [source] 2025-08-11 12:41:47
>>ost-in+7H1
Their side isn't the one trying to ban things. If you want to ban something you have to prove it's harmful. If you don't want to ban something you just have to call out that the other side has to prove it's harmful before they can ban it. It's like how you don't have to prove your innocence against a criminal conviction, merely provoke reasonable doubt (in theory).
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