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1. lvl155+rl[view] [source] 2025-08-02 16:40:02
>>wallfl+(OP)
Healthcare in the US is broken and they won’t let you fix it because the money is too good. Think about the fact that PBMs, which is there to save and manage on pharma is incentivized to promote drug price inflation. That’s just one “small” piece of this clusterf*k. It’s layers and layers of these convoluted system of incentives.

As to OP, the simplest solution is to move out of the US early enough or become “poor” enough and be in a wealthy blue state by the time you get to this predicament.

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2. silisi+lP[view] [source] 2025-08-02 20:00:36
>>lvl155+rl
Healthcare is little more than a jobs program at this point.

I believe it is the largest industry by employment in every single state now.

That compounds the problem even further. Really fixing it would put a double digit percentage of people out of work. I'm all for it, but I can see why politicians are hesitant.

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3. Aviceb+dQ[view] [source] 2025-08-02 20:07:28
>>silisi+lP
> Really fixing it would put a double digit percentage of people out of work. I'm all for it, but I can see why politicians are hesitant.

I'd love to hear what you think "really fixing it" is, please share.

I can report that all (almost all?) of the hospitals and their networks both big and small in the area I am in have had layoffs this year of admin staff and healthcare professionals (nurses, doctors, etc). They have reduced bed counts, and cut programs and treatment options available. All of this was done in the name of the "affordability crisis" and is kind of like the 3rd wave of this kind of consolidation, belt-tightening behavior. And..prices haven't gone down, and they keep cutting.

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4. casenm+hf1[view] [source] 2025-08-02 23:06:37
>>Aviceb+dQ
In the UK, with the NHS, it seems the focus of the NHS became management, rather than clinical care. One example I read of stuck with me; a superb nurse, who ran her ward extremely well, had to leave clinical nursing because as a career path, it was a dead end. She had to move into management, and her former ward descended into chaos.

NHS budget has last I knew increased many times over since 1948, but the bed count went from about 450k down to about 100k - and those numbers were from more than ten years ago.

A theory is presented to explain this, which is that the more money you put in, the more management you get, and the more management you get, the less time clinical staff have for clinical work; more money results in less clinical output - but more managerial output, which theory argues is the primary focus and product of NHS.

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5. bell-c+Uo1[view] [source] 2025-08-03 00:42:12
>>casenm+hf1
This problem is far broader than health care. Doesn't matter whether your actual "product" is hospital wards, sheet steel, romance novels, or mowed lawns - if your sector of the economy is not structured to have draconian penalties for bloated management/bureaucracy/overhead, then it will quickly develop ever-worsening bloat. Because it's always quicker & easier to scale up the desks & paperwork. And guess who makes the decisions about where to allocate resources?
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6. BobbyT+qD3[view] [source] 2025-08-04 02:46:44
>>bell-c+Uo1
Seems like large tech companies never have a shortage of management.

Between the matrix style organizational structure and the many layers (project manager, program manager, director, VP, senior VP, BU president, etc…), I would love to know what, if anything, the higher levels actually DO.

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