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1. passwo+Pu[view] [source] 2025-07-28 08:25:52
>>mmaria+(OP)
Destroy cultural integrity, national identity, create a low-trust society, become more authoritarian to manage low-trust society, import more immigrants at an exponential rate while house costs rise along with unemployment. The list keeps going. This is why far-right is surging on the polls. The country has completely lost all sense.
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2. HDThor+AF[view] [source] 2025-07-28 10:16:03
>>passwo+Pu
Very sad to see this from the country that produced some of the most influential pro freedom of speech philosophy the world has ever seen.
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3. Saline+WL[view] [source] 2025-07-28 11:11:48
>>HDThor+AF
Well they also produced pre-totalitarian authors, such as Thomas Hobbes and his advocacy of authoritarian states.
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4. krona+am1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 15:34:04
>>Saline+WL
You've confused the concept of an absolute sovereign with this which is control over the private lives of the individual and the family.
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5. Saline+092[view] [source] 2025-07-28 19:59:37
>>krona+am1
Hobbes makes plenty of comments about how the Sovereign is able to rule civil matters, such as speech, family or religion.
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6. krona+Ic2[view] [source] 2025-07-28 20:21:08
>>Saline+092
Yes the Sovereign adjudicates civil disputes. This is just how England has been Saxon times. There's nothing controversial about it in principal.
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7. Saline+ni2[view] [source] 2025-07-28 20:51:12
>>krona+Ic2
Please:

"In Hobbes’ view, the sovereign had a crucial role in overseeing religious matters. This included the power to appoint religious leaders, regulate religious practices, and ensure that religious teachings were in line with the laws of the state. By doing so, the sovereign could maintain control over potential sources of dissent and prevent religious conflicts from arising."

https://polsci.institute/classical-political-philosophy/reli...

Same goes with restriction of free speech by the sovereign. I understand that you could say that it's fine and so on, but is clearly a slippery slope.

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