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>>mmaria+(OP)
Destroy cultural integrity, national identity, create a low-trust society, become more authoritarian to manage low-trust society, import more immigrants at an exponential rate while house costs rise along with unemployment. The list keeps going. This is why far-right is surging on the polls. The country has completely lost all sense.

>>passwo+Pu
Very sad to see this from the country that produced some of the most influential pro freedom of speech philosophy the world has ever seen.

>>HDThor+AF
Well they also produced pre-totalitarian authors, such as Thomas Hobbes and his advocacy of authoritarian states.

>>Saline+WL
I think this is the most uncharitable reading and understand of Hobbes that exists. The main argument (and context) is that men is evil and can only live in "civilization" by being forced into it by an absolutely powerful state. The fact this state is a monarchy, a dictatroship or a democracy is not the issue. The fact (in which he is right) a state needs absolute power and monopoly of that power. Modern democracies are a good example, they have the absolute power and thus are more stable and peaceful that warlord controlled pseudo-countries in Africa.

>>u_sama+s51
From Wikipedia:

"The purpose of the commonwealth is peace, and the sovereign has the right to do whatever he thinks necessary for the preserving of peace and security and prevention of discord. Therefore, the sovereign may judge what opinions and doctrines are averse, who shall be allowed to speak to multitudes, and who shall examine the doctrines of all books before they are published."

This is an explicit restriction of free speech, in line with what's happening nowadays in the UK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Hobbes_book)