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1. barkin+8j[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:20:42
>>segfau+(OP)
There's also the Eclipse VScode-look-alike-reimplementation called TheiaIDE

https://theia-ide.org/

It was rough a few years ago, but nowadays it's pretty nice. TI rebuilt their Code Composer Studio using Theia so it does have some larger users. It has LSP support and the same Monaco editor backend - which is all I need.

It's VSCode-with-an-Eclipse-feel to it - which might or might not be your cup of tea, but it's an alternative.

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2. jeffbe+Fj[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:24:06
>>barkin+8j
Google Cloud Shell is also Theia. I think it is fairly popular.
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3. bayind+pn[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:56:47
>>jeffbe+Fj
Eclipse (as in ecosystem) is fairly popular in Enterprise, but since it exposes all the knobs, and is a bona fide IDE which has some learning curve, people stay away from it.

Also it used to be kinda heavy, but it became lighter because of Moore's law and good code management practices all over the board.

I'm planning to deploy Theia in its web based form if possible, but still didn't have the time to tinker with that one.

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4. pjmlp+4h1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 07:07:37
>>bayind+pn
Also to note that VSCode main architect was one of Eclipse architects, and co-author on GoF famous book, Erich Gamma.
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5. bayind+kh1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 07:11:09
>>pjmlp+4h1
Didn't know that. Now, that's interesting.

Using Eclipse as "the Java LSP" in VSCode makes more sense now.

Nevertheless, as much as I respect Erich for what he did for Eclipse, I won't be able to follow him to VSCode, since I don't respect Microsoft as much.

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6. pjmlp+Jh1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 07:14:33
>>bayind+kh1
So not also using Github, LinkedIn, TypeScript (any FE framework that uses it), any Microsoft owned studios games, no Linux kernel contributions, GHC contributions,....

It is kid of hard to avoid nowadays.

Here a session with him related to VSCode history,

"The Story of Visual Studio Code with Erich Gamma and Kai Maetzel"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTYx7MCIK7Y

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7. bayind+ai1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 07:19:23
>>pjmlp+Jh1
My personal code doesn't get uploaded to GitHub anymore, and I open my LinkedIn twice a year or so.

I don't do Web Development, I live in the trenches. Since I don't own a desktop system anymore, I don't honestly game.

I'm exposed to them via systemd and Linux Kernel, yes, but at least both are licensed with GPL.

At least I'm trying to minimize my exposure.

For more context, please see >>44634786

Thanks for the video, btw. I'll take a look the moment I have time.

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