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1. isatty+xi[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:14:58
>>segfau+(OP)
Why do people use obvious spyware when free software exists?
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2. charci+Zj[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:27:41
>>isatty+xi
Telemetry isn't the same thing as spying on the user. People use it because it's not actually spying on them.
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3. bayind+5n[view] [source] 2025-07-27 20:53:34
>>charci+Zj
Anonymized or not, opt-out telemetry is plain spying. Go was about to find out, and they backed out the last millisecond and converted to opt-in, for example.
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4. nicce+Eq[view] [source] 2025-07-27 21:23:28
>>bayind+5n
Unfortunately opt-in telemetry is like no telemetry at all. Defaults matter.
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5. inetkn+Yq[view] [source] 2025-07-27 21:26:27
>>nicce+Eq
No telemetry at all is a good thing to some (most?) people.
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6. nicce+qs[view] [source] 2025-07-27 21:37:15
>>inetkn+Yq
Telemetry can be implemented well. The software you use gets bugs fixed much faster since you get statistics that some bugs have higher impact than others. The more users software has, less skills they have in average to accurately report any issues.
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7. inetkn+3t[view] [source] 2025-07-27 21:41:53
>>nicce+qs
> The software you use gets bugs fixed much faster since you get statistics that some bugs have higher impact than others.

Try talking to your users instead.

> The more users software has, less skills they have in average to accurately report any issues.

No amount of telemetry will solve that.

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8. jodrel+WP[view] [source] 2025-07-28 01:37:07
>>inetkn+3t
The PowerShell team at Microsoft added opt-out telemetry to track when it was launched so they could make the case internally that they should get more funding, and have more internal clout.

It’s easy to argue that if you are a PowerShell user or developer you benefit from no telemetry, but it’s hard to argue that you benefit from the tool you use being sidelined or defunded because corporate thinks nobody uses it. “Talk to your users” doesn’t solve this because there are millions of computers running scripts and no way to know who they are or contact them even if you could contact that many people, and they would not remember how often they launched it.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsof...

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9. bayind+Gd1[view] [source] 2025-07-28 06:35:57
>>jodrel+WP
This is a systemic problem on Microsoft's side, it's not an upside of telemetry.

To be clear, I consent to send telemetry from some of the tools I use and deploy.

Their common pattern? They wait a bit, and ask nicely about whether I want to participate. Also, the dialog box asking the question defaults to off.

I read the fine print, look a the data they push, ponder and decide whether I'm cool with it or not.

Give me choice, be upfront and transparent. Then we can have a conversation.

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