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1. SchwKa+Tn[view] [source] 2025-07-25 00:46:39
>>madars+(OP)
My only problem with Graphene is the ridiculous low number of supported devices, i know I know, security reasons and so on. But I would accept an lower security hardened version but at least have Graphene instead of Google's junk
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2. bubble+9r[view] [source] 2025-07-25 01:14:52
>>SchwKa+Tn
What's ridiculous about it ? There are now 4-5 gens of Pixels with their major/minor bumps too (A series, pro, etc.). There's enough variety at different price points for everyone there.
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3. konsta+Mr[view] [source] 2025-07-25 01:19:45
>>bubble+9r
4-5 versions of the same phone in the gigantic sea of possible devices
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4. bubble+5s[view] [source] 2025-07-25 01:24:16
>>konsta+Mr
The other devices don't meet the criteria. Be happy that Pixels are supported, for Google seems to closing down Pixel OS too, making this whole effort rather difficult.
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5. konsta+Lz[view] [source] 2025-07-25 02:32:20
>>bubble+5s
> The other devices don't meet the criteria

you got it wrong way around

the CONSUMER criteria is "we want better independent security ON DEVICES WE ALREADY OWN"

complaints like in this thread are symptoms of unfullfilled demand - and they can't be solved by saying "oh gosh, what a stupid demand that doesn't agree with our supply"

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6. homarp+5R[view] [source] 2025-07-25 05:52:48
>>konsta+Lz
car analogy: I want my gazoline car to have hybrid engine. For free.

vendor: not possible

you: unfulfilled demand

me: the way I see it, you get a product for free if you fulfill certain conditions. If not, you buy these conditions.

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7. konsta+zv5[view] [source] 2025-07-27 00:00:04
>>homarp+5R
no, correct analogy would be

vendor: "we present 100% electric car"

we: "that's cool, I always wanted to decrease petrol use. But... can you provide an option for some petrol use? It's called hybrid, iirc?"

vendor: "no, our requirements only support 100% electric car. Hybrid cars use petrol and we can't allow that"

we: "suuure, I get that. But the price of electricity here still hasn't come down, everyone already has personal petrol reserves, and your cars are only provided with batteries from congonese child labor mines. Can we pleeease have the half-way option so that I can use less petrol for e.g. small distance travel, but still using petrol for country-sized movement?"

vendor: "no, we only support 100% electric car. Everything smaller is outside our requirements"

Real economics would've provided competition to fullfill demand - but currently Graphene is the only well-known vendor, so complaints will keep coming

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