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>>madars+(OP)
I just installed Graphene on a new pixel. I've only used it for two days, but I got that same feeling of "finding buried treasure in your backyard" I got when I first installed Linux in 1999. I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word. It is a TON of work and they got so much right. The security and usability settings give all the grainular control I've known was possible and wanted for a long time.

I see some core team on this thread, so just wanted to say THANK YOU! Awesome job! Keep fighting for the users!

I'm totally the wrong person to offer recommendations on mobile, but so far it works very well for me, but then, I use almost no third party apps, and none of them are Play store only. My only complaint is the hardware (outside of their control).

>>jrexil+LE
do you need to access your mobile for bank accounts ? does that work ?

>>dgan+kU
I hate that many banking apps refuse to run on non-Google OSes. I can see that my banking app doesn't even work on GrapheneOS based on the link given in a sibling comment. It makes absolutely no sense from a security perspective since I am still able to log in using the browser, and the web app has the exact same UI and authorization flows as the actual app.

It all seems like a security theater with the consequence that, ooops, we just vendor locked in all our customers to run a less secure OS by a company whose business it is to collect personal data and show ads that people don't want to see.

>>ulrikr+du1
Banking apps are spyware, that's why they avoid open source OSes, not because they want to vendor-lock you. Smartphone data collected by a banking app is basically the most valuable in the world for advertisers, as they get the telemetry instantly crossed with a full(ish) picture of your spending habits and all the KYC identifiers too.

>>mvieir+UE1
No, the reason is legal. Everything, and I mean everything else is secondary. They can tell in court that they did everything what they could. Of course:

- it’s a lie

- not even a white lie, they know perfectly well, that they can do way more

- most of the security “features” are completely useless

- they also know this

However, it’s very difficult to prove these, and laymen don’t and won’t understand the details.

>>ruszki+Yx2
And if any law ever goes after them it'll be years before any court charges them with anything.

By that time the amount of money that will have been made can justify and exceed whatever fine they might expect to get in court.