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>>madars+(OP)
I just installed Graphene on a new pixel. I've only used it for two days, but I got that same feeling of "finding buried treasure in your backyard" I got when I first installed Linux in 1999. I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word. It is a TON of work and they got so much right. The security and usability settings give all the grainular control I've known was possible and wanted for a long time.

I see some core team on this thread, so just wanted to say THANK YOU! Awesome job! Keep fighting for the users!

I'm totally the wrong person to offer recommendations on mobile, but so far it works very well for me, but then, I use almost no third party apps, and none of them are Play store only. My only complaint is the hardware (outside of their control).

>>jrexil+LE
> I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word.

I wish that were true, but if you delete the 100s of binary blobs (many with effectively root access) copied from a stock donor vendor partition the phone won't function at all.

There is no such thing as a fully open source and user controlled Android device today.

>>lrvick+K21
Was there ever? And is the situation improving or worsening?

I am alright with things that allow for improvement, at least in theory

>>rtpg+T41
Not sure what the situation is with Librem, Pine and Joola/SailfishOS, maybe those qualify?

>>bornfr+091
The Librem 5 and Pinephone are closed source hardware with closed source firmware. It's a misconception that they're open source. They have open source drivers, not hardware and firmware.

SailfishOS is not open source itself. It's far less open source than Android which has the Android Open Source Project with the whole base OS.

>>strcat+ef2
Purism uses U-Boot on the Librem5 and modified coreboot (in other places) I believe.

https://docs.u-boot.org/en/latest/board/purism/librem5.html

>>mixmas+1z2
This doesn't mean it's open hardware or that it has open firmware. It has a closed source SoC and many other closed source components. Those components are closed source hardware with closed source firmware.

Snapdragon uses a fork of the open source EDK2 as their bootloader prior to the OS and publishes the source code. It doesn't mean Snapdragon is open source.

Most of the firmware has nothing to do with the boot chain leading up to the OS on the SoC.

>>strcat+DH3
That’s standard at a low level I believe. There are almost no open choices way down there, especially with modems.

Looks like they are doing what a small company is able to do.