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1. jrexil+LE[view] [source] 2025-07-25 03:17:46
>>madars+(OP)
I just installed Graphene on a new pixel. I've only used it for two days, but I got that same feeling of "finding buried treasure in your backyard" I got when I first installed Linux in 1999. I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word. It is a TON of work and they got so much right. The security and usability settings give all the grainular control I've known was possible and wanted for a long time.

I see some core team on this thread, so just wanted to say THANK YOU! Awesome job! Keep fighting for the users!

I'm totally the wrong person to offer recommendations on mobile, but so far it works very well for me, but then, I use almost no third party apps, and none of them are Play store only. My only complaint is the hardware (outside of their control).

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2. lrvick+K21[view] [source] 2025-07-25 07:49:31
>>jrexil+LE
> I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word.

I wish that were true, but if you delete the 100s of binary blobs (many with effectively root access) copied from a stock donor vendor partition the phone won't function at all.

There is no such thing as a fully open source and user controlled Android device today.

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3. rtpg+T41[view] [source] 2025-07-25 08:08:50
>>lrvick+K21
Was there ever? And is the situation improving or worsening?

I am alright with things that allow for improvement, at least in theory

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4. bornfr+091[view] [source] 2025-07-25 08:54:16
>>rtpg+T41
Not sure what the situation is with Librem, Pine and Joola/SailfishOS, maybe those qualify?
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5. strcat+ef2[view] [source] 2025-07-25 16:54:50
>>bornfr+091
The Librem 5 and Pinephone are closed source hardware with closed source firmware. It's a misconception that they're open source. They have open source drivers, not hardware and firmware.

SailfishOS is not open source itself. It's far less open source than Android which has the Android Open Source Project with the whole base OS.

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6. Daviey+As3[view] [source] 2025-07-26 00:06:31
>>strcat+ef2
AOSP is coming to an end...

https://old.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/1l8rhon/a...

>>44254540

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7. strcat+fH3[view] [source] 2025-07-26 02:52:53
>>Daviey+As3
No, someone took an out-of-context screenshot of information conveyed by the GrapheneOS account and misrepresented it. We were describing what a source we described as unreliable told us based on what they said was a leak from Google. You can see we didn't say what was claimed but rather were describing information from a source ("they said", "according to the source"). It was fully clear in the context the screenshot was taken that this was someone's speculation to us based on a leak and that we didn't consider it reliable information. Part of it turned out to be correct so we shared the information to discuss it.

Following this, we posted multiple threads correcting inaccurate claims about what we had said about this and made it clear GrapheneOS was continuing. GrapheneOS was fully ported to Android 16 before the end of June, which took longer than usual due to the changes but was still completed.

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