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1. usuall+8q[view] [source] 2025-07-25 01:05:34
>>madars+(OP)
I was tempted to use this but when I looked into the team behind it there seemed to be some issues as exposed by Louis Rossman here: https://youtu.be/Dl1x1Dy-ej4.

Instead, I installed CalyxOS and have been using it over a year now and I'm very happy with it. Check it out.

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2. onli+AT[view] [source] 2025-07-25 06:19:27
>>usuall+8q
You are exactly right. To summarise for those who do not want to watch a video, the video shows communications with Graphenes lead developer in which he was extremely hostile and threatened Rossman. It also goes into how said developers hallucinates being attacked by specific other sites, like a Linux YouTube channel that obviously did nothing to him. His goons then attack those projects.

You have to be aware that you give that person root when you use Graphene. All possible technical improvements aside this is a very big risk. He claimed he would step back after the video released, then called that a lie and continued with everything.

Calyx seems to be the best alternative right now without such a risk factor.

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3. other8+Wc1[view] [source] 2025-07-25 09:38:57
>>onli+AT
There's way much more to it than what you said here.

> extremely hostile and threatened Rossman

At the time, he was very upset. You know, because he was swatted multiple times. Of course he was upset when Rossmann showed his true colors and was trying to talk to him. Rossmann saw this as an opportunity and recorded it as it was happening. He tries to portray Daniel as crazy and people who attack the project and his friends on Kiwi Farms lap that stuff up.

It's not true that he stopped using GrapheneOS, though. He continued using GrapheneOS for months after that video, which you can see by watching his later videos.

> hallucinates

Repeating baseless claims that he's crazy.

> You have to be aware that you give that person root when you use Graphene.

What? This is a very strange way to say it. Either way, it's literally impossible for someone on the GrapheneOS team to target someone like what was claimed in the video. GrapheneOS devices don't send identifiers when they contact the update server. The update servers also only host static files.

> Calyx seems to be the best alternative right now without such a risk factor.

The "risk factor" is completely false. It's all made up to attack GrapheneOS, making the founder look like a crazy person, then people are scared of using the OS. CalyxOS is not a hardened OS and rolls back security in some ways. It's not the next best alternative for people who care about these things.

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4. onli+ae1[view] [source] 2025-07-25 09:51:12
>>other8+Wc1
Nothing I said is baseless and contrary to you, I do provide sources.

> Of course he was upset when Rossmann showed his true colors

I saw the chats. You lie. Showing his true colors = not accepting that there is an evil conspiracy and asking for proof. You are completely brainwashed and I will not continue this discussion.

If Calyx is not the next best alternative be invited to link to what you think is the best alternative. I still think it's Calyx.

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5. Klonoa+ko1[view] [source] 2025-07-25 11:40:30
>>onli+ae1
…you haven’t provided any sources at all.
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6. onli+Jp1[view] [source] 2025-07-25 11:54:35
>>Klonoa+ko1
I'm responding to it directly, the main source is the video linked in parent of this thread. Its description contains further links. I also did link to a relevant statement from the developer in a subthread here.

All I said is sourced.

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7. Klonoa+No3[view] [source] 2025-07-25 23:33:03
>>onli+Jp1
As best I can tell, you've done nothing more than brigade a thread with odd claims about the GOS developer, sourcing from an interaction with a known drama YouTuber/KiwiFarms associate.

The people you've had respond to you in this thread, who likely have more intimate knowledge of what actually happened, have done a better job of breaking down this stuff - so I'll just defer to them.

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