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1. jrexil+LE[view] [source] 2025-07-25 03:17:46
>>madars+(OP)
I just installed Graphene on a new pixel. I've only used it for two days, but I got that same feeling of "finding buried treasure in your backyard" I got when I first installed Linux in 1999. I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word. It is a TON of work and they got so much right. The security and usability settings give all the grainular control I've known was possible and wanted for a long time.

I see some core team on this thread, so just wanted to say THANK YOU! Awesome job! Keep fighting for the users!

I'm totally the wrong person to offer recommendations on mobile, but so far it works very well for me, but then, I use almost no third party apps, and none of them are Play store only. My only complaint is the hardware (outside of their control).

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2. lrvick+K21[view] [source] 2025-07-25 07:49:31
>>jrexil+LE
> I can't believe this amazing software is free in all senses of the word.

I wish that were true, but if you delete the 100s of binary blobs (many with effectively root access) copied from a stock donor vendor partition the phone won't function at all.

There is no such thing as a fully open source and user controlled Android device today.

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3. cherry+Q51[view] [source] 2025-07-25 08:19:42
>>lrvick+K21
This is also the case with mainline linux though. Good luck using Nvidia graphics with only FOSS components.

Even more FOSS friendly graphics vendors like AMD and Intel rely on binary firmware.

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4. strcat+0h2[view] [source] 2025-07-25 17:02:03
>>cherry+Q51
Laptops, desktops, smartphones or tablets are closed source hardware with closed source firmware in general. There are products marketed as if they're open source devices which are in fact closed source hardware with almost entirely closed source firmware. The software on top being open source is frequently misrepresented as the device itself being open source, which isn't the case. Not shipping important firmware updates in the OS provides assurance of insecurity while not changing the fact that the hardware and firmware is closed source. It has to do with a loophole defined in a certain ideology around software, not open hardware or privacy/security.
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