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1. usuall+8q[view] [source] 2025-07-25 01:05:34
>>madars+(OP)
I was tempted to use this but when I looked into the team behind it there seemed to be some issues as exposed by Louis Rossman here: https://youtu.be/Dl1x1Dy-ej4.

Instead, I installed CalyxOS and have been using it over a year now and I'm very happy with it. Check it out.

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2. onli+AT[view] [source] 2025-07-25 06:19:27
>>usuall+8q
You are exactly right. To summarise for those who do not want to watch a video, the video shows communications with Graphenes lead developer in which he was extremely hostile and threatened Rossman. It also goes into how said developers hallucinates being attacked by specific other sites, like a Linux YouTube channel that obviously did nothing to him. His goons then attack those projects.

You have to be aware that you give that person root when you use Graphene. All possible technical improvements aside this is a very big risk. He claimed he would step back after the video released, then called that a lie and continued with everything.

Calyx seems to be the best alternative right now without such a risk factor.

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3. gf000+l31[view] [source] 2025-07-25 07:53:51
>>onli+AT
Calyx has lackluster security practices, and even removes signature checking so they can sell microG as Google Play Store to apps. This is an objective statement, graphene OS is leagues ahead of anything on the market in terms of security, while calyx is basically just a custom ROM to tinker with.

As for the personal aspect, the lead developer is definitely not the best representative of the project from a communication perspective as he might not have that kind of social skills (based on his posts). [1]

But he (Micay) is an excellent security researcher, and has an excellent track record when it comes to prioritizing his users. There was a sponsorship in the beginning, where the legal entity, CopperheadOS tried to hijack the whole project. But Micay rather kill the project, than let the users' security suffer and revoked the signing keys. And I'm sure such a betrayal would cause anyone to lose a lot of faith in others' actions.

> Give that person root

Complete bullshit, what root?! And if anything, you are the one who are trying to discredit a project here, by sharing some dumb clickbait video.

[1] I see that there is now a project manager doing most of the communication, which is an excellent solution!

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4. onli+741[view] [source] 2025-07-25 08:00:26
>>gf000+l31
Do I have to explain what root is, or what are you not understanding about the concept of the software provider having complete control of the software on your phone and thus having root rights?

Your CopperheadOS description is one perspective, one that does not look all that believable now after his mental illness became clear.

I did not share the video, but I would and it is not clickbait.

I will not further respond to you, I don't think this would lead to a fruitful discussion. Kindly think about what kind of trust is necessary to trust in the proper functioning of a device as personal as a modern phone, and think about attack scenarios that could occur when the main developer of your OS is not trustworthy in the slightest.

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