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1. patcht+6a[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:19:50
>>pabs3+(OP)
GrapheneOS says

"European authoritarians and their enablers in the media are misrepresenting GrapheneOS and even Pixel phones as if they're something for criminals. GrapheneOS is opposed to the mass surveillance police state these people want to impose on everyone"

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114784469162979608

State employees in their official capacity making inaccurate claims to media about GrapheneOS to smear it as being for criminals and as the users as largely being criminals is a state sponsored attack on the GrapheneOS project.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114813613250805804

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2. johnis+nb[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:27:44
>>patcht+6a
And at the same time:

> GrapheneOS is not immune to exploitation, but the fearmongering done in these ongoing attacks on it is very clearly fabricated. They feel threatened enough by GrapheneOS to engage in coordinated attempts at convincing people that it's unable to protect their privacy and security.

So... they (cops and friends) are saying that GrapheneOS is for criminals, AND that it does not work at protecting anyone's privacy and is not for security. Amazing.

See: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114784553445461948 and the rest.

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3. kspace+le[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:45:13
>>johnis+nb
Fridges are for criminals too. The very good ones can keep the severed body parts cold for longer, thus preventing spoilage and reports of foul odours from downstairs neighbours. Will Frigidaire and Bosch stop selling this criminal technology to criminals?
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4. johnis+jn[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:31:43
>>kspace+le
UK should have an answer to that (see: knives). :D

They really are absurd.

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5. paulry+so[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:36:45
>>johnis+jn
Can I take a moment to say how jealous I am that the UK's mass attack problem is largely about knives and not guns?

Here in the land of more-guns-than-humans it feels so much more bleak.

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6. DrScie+wr[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:53:18
>>paulry+so
Back to the parental comment - it's been decided there isn't really a good reason to have most guns and so they are strictly controlled - I mean what's the legit reason for having an assault rifle?

Now if the government thinks there isn't really a good reason to have a phone they can't hack ( because they are the good guys right.... and in theory need court orders etc - so there is legal oversight ) then they will see such phones in the same light and consider banning.

This is at the core of the argument - and why governments ask for a special backdoor - as they accept a generally secure phone ( to stop your neighbour snooping ) is a good thing, but they are used to being able to tap phones and open letters if a judge gives them permission.

Obviously the ironic thing is most phones probably already do have special backdoors - but only for the country where the makers reside - and that countries government doesn't want other governments to know or have acccess.

And in the case of fridges - there is no argument there that they aren't legit reasons to own.

In the case of knives - zombie knives don't really have legit use, whereas kitchen knives do.

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7. t-3+7r1[view] [source] 2025-07-23 21:54:14
>>DrScie+wr
> I mean what's the legit reason for having an assault rifle?

If the government is allowed to have them, the people should be allowed to have them. Anything else would be inviting tyranny, as has been demonstrated ad nauseam by pretty much every government ever.

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8. aredox+qj2[view] [source] 2025-07-24 07:03:17
>>t-3+7r1
Has the NRA ever defended the right of black people like the Black Panthers to bear arms?

https://www.history.com/articles/black-panthers-gun-control-...

Your second amendment defenders are actually on the side of tyranny, ready to torch the Capitol a second time when their caudillo orders so.

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9. t-3+Mb4[view] [source] 2025-07-24 19:32:44
>>aredox+qj2
The NRA are self-interested, racist scum, Trump supporters are authoritarian fascists - almost totally opposed to freedom and resisting tyranny. What do they have to do with anything?
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