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>>pabs3+(OP)
This is just a continuation of “well a lot of people who commit crimes have dark skin, so let’s profile all people with dark skin.”

But in reality, I think this is a scare piece meant to drive people away from using graphing OS.

>>Follow+s3
> This is just a continuation of “well a lot of people who commit crimes have dark skin, so let’s profile all people with dark skin.”

You aren't born with a GrapheneOS phone and you can't trivially discard or swap your skin color. Born immutable characteristics of humans are a different moral category entirely, even if the statistical inferences are superficially similar to this case... And that's debatable.

I use GrapheneOS, and I think police profiling people based on phone model is bad. But government profiling based on skin color or other effectively immutable, born traits for enforcement of law or policy is so much worse.

>>sfRatt+Ew1
I don’t see how you could think I disagree with that. As I said, it’s a continuation like an extension like something connected to, but not the same as.

>>Follow+vQ1
I'm saying, even if both things are bad, there's a moral category difference between profiling based on immutable, born characteristics and profiling based on choices (in this case, choice of phone). They are not continuous or connected, but two different categories with a hard break or line between them you have to deliberately cross. That both involve profiling does not connect them, just as shooting a human and shooting a paper target are fundamentally different moral categories which are not made continuous by dint the fact that both involve pulling a trigger.

>>sfRatt+dx2
My point is in all cases profiling is stupid.

You seem to think shooting a gun is not stupid in all cases. I think shooting a gun at a person or a paper target are both stupid.

I didn’t bring up the morals, you did.

But besides that point, who says being paranoid, does not have as much genetic roots as having dark skin? I know it’s true for my family, many of us have anxiety and OCD and schizoaffective disorder. And guess what? I’ve owned several pixel phones with graphene OS on them in the past.

>>Follow+e33
Fair enough. But I think we're talking past each other:

> You seem to think shooting a gun is not stupid in all cases. I think shooting a gun at a person or a paper target are both stupid.

In the same way I brought up morals and you did not, you've now brought up "stupid," which I did not.

Seeing your initial comment absent any other context looked to me like a casual moral equivalence that I find reflexively, deeply wrong, for the reasons I gave.

If that wasn't your thinking, I apologize for reading into it.