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1. patcht+6a[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:19:50
>>pabs3+(OP)
GrapheneOS says

"European authoritarians and their enablers in the media are misrepresenting GrapheneOS and even Pixel phones as if they're something for criminals. GrapheneOS is opposed to the mass surveillance police state these people want to impose on everyone"

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114784469162979608

State employees in their official capacity making inaccurate claims to media about GrapheneOS to smear it as being for criminals and as the users as largely being criminals is a state sponsored attack on the GrapheneOS project.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114813613250805804

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2. johnis+nb[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:27:44
>>patcht+6a
And at the same time:

> GrapheneOS is not immune to exploitation, but the fearmongering done in these ongoing attacks on it is very clearly fabricated. They feel threatened enough by GrapheneOS to engage in coordinated attempts at convincing people that it's unable to protect their privacy and security.

So... they (cops and friends) are saying that GrapheneOS is for criminals, AND that it does not work at protecting anyone's privacy and is not for security. Amazing.

See: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114784553445461948 and the rest.

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3. kspace+le[view] [source] 2025-07-23 14:45:13
>>johnis+nb
Fridges are for criminals too. The very good ones can keep the severed body parts cold for longer, thus preventing spoilage and reports of foul odours from downstairs neighbours. Will Frigidaire and Bosch stop selling this criminal technology to criminals?
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4. johnis+jn[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:31:43
>>kspace+le
UK should have an answer to that (see: knives). :D

They really are absurd.

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5. paulry+so[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:36:45
>>johnis+jn
Can I take a moment to say how jealous I am that the UK's mass attack problem is largely about knives and not guns?

Here in the land of more-guns-than-humans it feels so much more bleak.

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6. johnis+1q[view] [source] 2025-07-23 15:45:25
>>paulry+so
Yeah, but knives have a wide range of use, whereas guns do not.

You cannot buy a kitchen knife because people MAY use it cause harm.

It is like forbidding the use of roads because it MAY be used to <insert illegal activity here>. Uses (usage?) of roads are even more broad than uses of knives.

I think it is easier to argue in favor of knives (or against the prohibition of ... of knives) than guns, for this reason alone.

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7. BirAda+Ty[view] [source] 2025-07-23 16:32:28
>>johnis+1q
A gun can stop an attacker whether human, ursine, or large feline.

A gun can be used for recreational shooting.

A gun can just be an historical collectors' piece.

A gun can be used in researching bullet proof vests and other equipment for a startup looking to sell to law enforcement/military.

There are many reasons for gun ownership. Ultimately, the reason should be that the individual is free to do as he/she chooses so long as he/she doesn't initiate a violent interaction.

The most often cited reason for banning firearms is the prevention of school shootings. For some reason, everyone is focused on the gun and not the fact that students wish to do violence at schools. What is it about the modern educational system that students wish to perpetrate violence in the schools to other students and teachers? Why isn't the mental health of the American youth at the center of this conversation?

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8. broken+HD1[view] [source] 2025-07-23 23:35:20
>>BirAda+Ty
I should be free to do whatever I want with my Javelin missile as long as I don't initiate a violent interaction.
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9. sp0ck+Hk2[view] [source] 2025-07-24 07:16:34
>>broken+HD1
You are right. Polish Head of Police had one in his office[1]. He launch it in his office without violent interracion.

[1]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/polands-top-cop-accidenta...

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