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1. Follow+s3[view] [source] 2025-07-23 13:37:58
>>pabs3+(OP)
This is just a continuation of “well a lot of people who commit crimes have dark skin, so let’s profile all people with dark skin.”

But in reality, I think this is a scare piece meant to drive people away from using graphing OS.

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2. sfRatt+Ew1[view] [source] 2025-07-23 22:39:39
>>Follow+s3
> This is just a continuation of “well a lot of people who commit crimes have dark skin, so let’s profile all people with dark skin.”

You aren't born with a GrapheneOS phone and you can't trivially discard or swap your skin color. Born immutable characteristics of humans are a different moral category entirely, even if the statistical inferences are superficially similar to this case... And that's debatable.

I use GrapheneOS, and I think police profiling people based on phone model is bad. But government profiling based on skin color or other effectively immutable, born traits for enforcement of law or policy is so much worse.

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3. underl+6F1[view] [source] 2025-07-23 23:46:40
>>sfRatt+Ew1
Americans (at least) approach many dynamics with the same zeal (and irrationality) as they do racial issues. Think about the "green iMessage bubble" controversy. Think about sports fandom. It's not that those situations are comparable in their seriousness, but people do use dumb things as alarmingly inappropriate heuristics for how to treat others. They project unrelated behaviors onto things that apparently rise to the level of minor identity signifiers, and then people get genuinely hurt - or, speaking more directly to HNer interests, products fail because markets go underserved as second-class customers (waves at Meerkat).
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