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1. duxup+z1[view] [source] 2025-07-18 15:22:52
>>josefr+(OP)
This just seems like a power grab to empower federal level personal thugs for the executive branch.

Most of these departments have rules about how they use our data. ICE now gobbles it all up and can use it without rules by a department that operates with little regard and lots of exceptions to typical protections for citizens afforded by the constitution.

The majority in SCOTUS does not seem to care (it’s ok as long as their guy does it). Whatever rules we thought there were seem to be out the window because someone magically moved data or ICE got to do it or so on ...

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2. dmix+6a[view] [source] 2025-07-18 15:58:54
>>duxup+z1
> lots of exceptions to typical protections for citizens afforded by the constitution

Almost the entire US constitution applies to non-citizens in the country, with some small exceptions like voting and holding public office.

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3. xdenni+rt[view] [source] 2025-07-18 17:24:44
>>dmix+6a
There are some differences for illegal immigrants, though. For example they don't have the right to due process under expedited removal (passed by Bill Clinton in 1996).
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4. empath+bx[view] [source] 2025-07-18 17:42:58
>>xdenni+rt
This is a little misleading. Under Clinton, they could basically just turn them around at a port of entry. Eventually (2004) this was expanded to people within 100 miles of a border within 2 weeks of entering the country, and then in 2020 they _dramatically_ expanded this to people anyone who has been here for less than 2 years, and that has not been tested in court, really.

This is sort of a classic example of a slippery slope, FWIW. As soon as you deny anybody due process, the category of people that applies to will just constantly expand.

Now, there's basically nothing stopping immigration officials from immediately deporting anybody they want, citizen, non-citizen, illegal or legal immigrant.

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5. jahews+NQ[view] [source] 2025-07-18 19:33:42
>>empath+bx
> Now, there's basically nothing stopping immigration officials from immediately deporting anybody they want, citizen, non-citizen, illegal or legal immigrant.

What nonsense. We have the courts. There must be a valid determination made that a person entered illegally for expedited deportation to apply. Due process applies to that determination - if it is not made correctly then sue. But more importantly why on earth would it not be made correctly? If you can’t prove that you’re a US citizen then something is very wrong.

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