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1. pclowe+Cf[view] [source] 2025-07-16 22:52:31
>>asimop+(OP)
My cynical take is that small phones don't exist because they are not the product. Similar to vape pens the product is the addictive substance the device loads. In this case its apps and ads. A smaller screen probably negatively impacts KPIs on many levels, at Google/Apple/Meta/X and on down through the ecosystem.

I understand that Apple did not make enough money to make it worth their while to continue the iphone mini line. However, it does seem like there is a profitable business for someone there given how beloved it was/is.

I only traded out my iphone 12 mini just recently for an iphone 16 pro (likely the last apple product I will ever buy but thats another story) and aside from the camera it is basically the same. Just heavier, awkward to hold and slightly worse designed.

No major player wants a smaller screen because it has downstream impacts on the pipeline of addictive material and ad pixels they can stuff into ocular nerves.

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2. Liftye+ag[view] [source] 2025-07-16 22:57:37
>>pclowe+Cf
Out of curiosity, why's it your last Apple product?

Watching lots of Louis Rossmann has put me almost ideologically against Apple (even though they design great hardware and smooth UX within their ecosystem), but I'm not good at forming coherent points to present to Apple loving friends.

For me so far, I think it's about control over what I buy - but the rebuttal is always "you're buying a product from them, if you don't like it then tough".

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3. pclowe+fh[view] [source] 2025-07-16 23:06:01
>>Liftye+ag
I just don't see the value add anymore and the company appears to have lost its product vision and the design sensibilities are slipping. Apple is controlled by a geriatric board and a logistics expert and it shows.

I feel I am more frequently encountering software bugs, vaporware,(dESiGnEd fOr ApPle InTelLiGeNce), and ridiculous "innovation" (genmoji). I feel the hardware advances are not very relevant to me, I don't need VR or augmented reality. I want a computer to get out of my way and solve problems for me so I can spend time in plain old reality. The hardware upgrades I DO care about are ridiculously overpriced (Ram upgrades are abusively expensive).

While I prefer my computer to be a tool to get a job done and don't want the computer itself to be a hobby. I also do not want to be forced to use AI. I also dislike the rent seeking and toolbooth behavior of iMessage and the App store. Now that linux has more paved paths, things increasingly "just work" and hardware has basically caught up I don't see a good reason to support Apple's non-vision with my money.

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4. scarfa+Rn[view] [source] 2025-07-16 23:59:11
>>pclowe+fh
What Linux computer can you buy with the battery life, quietness, lack of heat and speed of a modern ARM based Mac?

As far as phones - your alternative is to buy an Android phone with an operating system by an ad company that is also pushing AI just as hard.

And you still end up getting most apps from the Google Play Store.

By the way, iMessage supports SMS/MMS/RCS for interoperability. What else do you want?

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5. pclowe+uQ[view] [source] 2025-07-17 05:28:57
>>scarfa+Rn
I think there are a lot of offerings out there now. Maybe not to the minute with respect to battery life but Apples chip advantage is steadily evaporating. I typically don't need more than 8 hours of battery personally.

Have heard good things about framework computers. As a more efficient chip or battery comes out you just upgrade that component if your use case requires it.

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6. prmous+981[view] [source] 2025-07-17 08:36:01
>>pclowe+uQ
Most people don't really need more than 2 hours of battery life anyway[1] as their laptops barely ever leave the house. >8H of battery is nice to have but it is really an important parameter for a specific population while for others it is just convenience. I wouldn't trade an OS/desktop I don't like over my linux setup just because it last longer when I never need more than a couple of hours on battery[3].

[1] which means you need a 4 to 6h range when new if you don't plan to replace the battery too often

[2] students, construction companies, people who are always on the road...

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7. scarfa+A91[view] [source] 2025-07-17 08:49:21
>>prmous+981
Is that where we are going? Most people don’t need a laptop that has more than 2 hours battery life?

When I was in the office full time in the bad old days, you would be in a conference room and every one would plug their laptops in.

After I started working remotely and still doing business trips, one charge could last a full day either going back and forth between conference rooms, in “war rooms” etc and no one with M series MacBooks even worried about charging.

Heck my MacBook Pro (work laptop) can last a full day on power with my portable USB C powered external monitor where the power and video come from one cord.

Not to mention on flights with layovers.

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8. prmous+oH2[view] [source] 2025-07-17 19:20:37
>>scarfa+A91
You are exactly one of those few that I mentionned as exceptions. Fine.
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