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1. demite+q7[view] [source] 2025-07-11 12:11:26
>>cainxi+(OP)
Not a big fan of the ongoing productisation of transcendental, possibly brain-scrambling experiences. Keeping them somewhat less accessible tends to filter out people who don't do their homework to understand the substance and who consider it just another novel experience to try on a whim, which increases the risk of negative outcomes.
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2. hnlmor+38[view] [source] 2025-07-11 12:15:44
>>demite+q7
That has been various governments approach to drugs for literally decades and it got us nowhere.

The problem isnt that this still is casually available. Drugs have been casually available since forever.

The problem is that pushing drug usage to the fringes makes it less safe for people who haven’t done their homework. Ironically the exact opposite of that you claimed.

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3. mathia+Ee[view] [source] 2025-07-11 13:04:30
>>hnlmor+38
I think with psychedelics it's fine. The problems you're talking about are with addictive stimulants.
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4. asveik+at[view] [source] 2025-07-11 14:31:58
>>mathia+Ee
With psychedelics the risk profile is very different. Firstly, people can do harmful things during the trip. Second, a more vague, difficult to measure and predict concern around long term psychological effects to some people.
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5. therag+nU5[view] [source] 2025-07-13 20:35:39
>>asveik+at
Harmful things during the trip are extremely rare. Haven't seen among thousands! of trips I've witnessed.
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6. asveik+de8[view] [source] 2025-07-14 16:56:16
>>therag+nU5
I haven't personally seen it either, though sounds like I'm less experienced than you.

I've heard of a few though. In 2019 a bay area software engineer who by all accounts was a good guy, maybe somebody here knows him, attacked some people on a trip. He also stole some vehicles, drove over some people, and was shot by law enforcement trying to stop him. He was paralyzed.

That's an extreme oddball case or freak accident.

I think one needs to take in such a story and not sensationalize it or overstate danger, or get yourself scared, but also, you do need to know that things can go out of control for some people.

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