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1. elliot+qh[view] [source] 2025-07-07 01:17:16
>>zdw+(OP)
To claim that LLMs do not experience consciousness requires a model of how consciousness works. The author has not presented a model, and instead relied on emotive language leaning on the absurdity of the claim. I would say that any model one presents of consciousness often comes off as just as absurd as the claim that LLMs experience it. It's a great exercise to sit down and write out your own perspective on how consciousness works, to feel out where the holes are.

The author also claims that a function (R^n)^c -> (R^n)^c is dramatically different to the human experience of consciousness. Yet the author's text I am reading, and any information they can communicate to me, exists entirely in (R^n)^c.

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2. shevis+0i[view] [source] 2025-07-07 01:22:41
>>elliot+qh
> requires a model of how consciousness works.

Not necessarily an entire model, just a single defining characteristic that can serve as a falsifying example.

> any information they can communicate to me, exists entirely in (R^n)^c

Also no. This is just a result of the digital medium we are currently communicating over. Merely standing in the same room as them would communicate information outside (R^n)^c.

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